Posted on 10/21/2009 7:54:13 PM PDT by neverdem
Fifty-five percent of this group, and 41% of all Americans, hold this belief
PRINCETON, NJ -- A new Gallup poll may explain recent reports of increased gun and ammunition sales in the U.S. Majorities of those who personally own a gun (55%) and of those with a gun in the household (53%), as well as 41% of all Americans, believe that President Obama "will attempt to ban the sale of guns in the United States while he is president."
"Gallup's question documents that for a majority of gun owners, the belief that the president intends to try to ban the sale of guns is apparently quite real."
The issue of Obama's intentions relating to guns has particular relevance given the widespread news reports of sharply increased sales of guns and ammunition. Many of these reports suggest that the reason behind these increased sales is the belief -- right or wrong -- that the president intends to severely curtail the legal availability of guns and ammunition. A recent National Public Radio news story, for example, reported: "Gun dealers and bullet-makers are straining to keep up with record demand for ammunition. Some dealers think it's because of fear that President Obama might limit gun use. Although the president has made no specific proposal, bullets for sportsmen have been scarce for months."
And similar themes were struck in an Associated Press report: "American bullet-makers are working around the clock, seven days a week, and still cannot keep up with the nation's demand for ammunition. Shooting ranges, gun dealers, and bullet manufacturers say they have never seen such shortages. Bullets, especially for handguns, have been scarce for...
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Two words prevent what you are suggesting: Passe Commitatus!
Nuff said.
Exactly!!
Many remember the sniper Simo Häyhä only as using the Mosin Nagant M28 or M28/30 rifle with open sights...the total time that Simo Häyhä served in the Winter War was 100 days with about 500 kills credited to him.
http://www.mosinnagant.net/finland/simohayha.asp
“The government has all the toys, the heavy artillery, the satellites, virtually unlimited resources, the communications centers, the organization - in other words, the infrastructure.”
Allow me to remind you that Eric Rudolph, the Olympic bomber, had 1,000 of the federal government’s finest running around in circles for five years, including use of all the toys you mentioned, trying to catch him. They caught him by accident when he stopped for lunch at a dumpster. I prefer to look at real-life examples of the enemy in action, rather than assigning him some speculative advantage. Let’s not give our opponent super-human powers. The tools are only as good as the person using them. And from various examples we know that most leftists are morons.
Well, let’s suppose we were shooting. Don’t you think they’d know where we were?
A lone man hiding in the woods is a lot harder to find than gun-toting rebels who go home at night to their subdivision development homes.
I think your analogy is totally off-base. It has nothing in common with what a patriotic uprising would look like.
You’re right. They won’t come to your door and take them.
They will, however, stifle related commerce to the point that resupply, repairs and replacement will be nigh unto impossible. They might not be able to eliminate ‘em, but they can suffocate practical ownership. (Hey, how’s your militia-standard M16 holding up? oh, that’s right, you can’t buy a new one and can’t afford an old one...)
The “DC Sniper” may be a better analogy. Lived & operated in the ‘burbs, did dirty work (13 hits) right there in busy environments, used mundane resources to do it, tied up huge amounts of law enforcement resources for weeks, found only because he kept at it and was probably stupid about something.
Google the Swiss aphorism “shoot twice and go home”.
What cha got for sale? and how far are you from Abilene?
Exactly what I was thinking as I read the article.
Exactly....then again we haven’t been seeing much rational thought from DC lately.
What do you have for sale?
“The effect of this deterrent ........”
It is called mutually assured destruction.
First, nobody since Reagan has made any serious attempts to stop either one of those. In fact every President since Reagan has been actively encouraging the illegals to come on in!
Second, nobody really needs to ban guns and expect that the guns will actually be turned into the government. All that is required is to ban guns then the people caught with or using illegal weapons (especially in otherwise lawful self defense) can be made examples of in spectacular fashion thus quenching any desire to resist and establishing an effective de facto "ban." The real desire in a gun ban is to remove the item from immediate use as in CCW permit laws nationwide. The key to this strategy is incrementalism. Go after the so called Assault Weapons first then work your way down. See the books of our own freeper Travis McGee: EFAD
Thanx.
The boneless tongue, so small and weak, can crush and kill, declares the Greek.
The tongue destroys a greater horde,
the Turk asserts, than does the sword.
The Persian proverb wisely saith,
A lengthy tongue an early death!
Or sometimes takes this form instead,
Dont let your tongue cut off your head.
The tongue can speak a word whose speed,
say the Chinese, outstrips the steed.
The Arab sages said in part,
The tongues great storehouse is the heart.
From Hebrew was the maxim sprung,
Thy fret should slip, but neer the tongue.
The sacred writer crowns the whole,
Who keeps the tongue doth keep his soul.
You shouldn't talk that way to me nor anyone else referring to them with profanity. My mint condition Russian SKS with folding fiberforce stock (which you sell for about $40 by itself) is worth well more than the $300 some people think it's worth. The only individuals who make ugly comments like yours are the very ones who are part of the problem. The game is over. You can't rip people off any more...at least not for long.
Oh, I have!
The question was a rhetorical one, really. No one with any sense thinks a still mechanically competent rural population which, despite the condescention of the bi-coastal urbane, has enough savvy to create all sorts of odds and ends out of scrap metal and can do enough chemistry to make that work, thinks for an instance that they will ever disarm America.
Like the bumper sticker says, "When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns". They can't hunt us all down, they can't grow their own food, and they can't import enough to keep the masses from storming the battlements.
This would be the tipping point, IMHO.
Incremental or not, we have to draw the line somewhere, and the sooner, the better.
I’m sorry for coming across the way I did, but you need to understand that not ALL gunshops are crooks. If you’ve been going to places like Gander Mountain, Cabela’s, etc,they’re prices are very high according to my customers.As for my attitude, I’ve EARNED it since the annointed one got elected. Try to imagine if you can, living in one of the most liberal states,selling guns and ammo, (when available),and STILL having to explain WHY there is a shortage of the items they want after all these months.There is NO reason that anyone needs 500,000 rounds of ammo for one gun, thats just stupid. THESE are the people driving prices up, not ALL of the dealers.Even if there is a war of some kind on the horizon, any good soldier knows you pick up guns and ammo as the enemy drops them. p.s. I’ve got an ORIGINAL russian sks with bayonet in excellent condition i’ll sell you for $279.00 I’m sorry others ripped you off, but it wasn’t me.
Not that I would argue that it would be difficult to invade the US because of our arms, but the other minor impediment is about 3,000 miles of ocean on either side. I dont think Mexico has the heart for it after 1848. And Canada, is, well...Canada.
Apology accepted and that’s a decent price on a Russian SKS. Someone in your area ought to take a look at it.
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