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A Big, Fat Stock Market Selloff
The Daily Reckoning ^ | 10-20-2009 | Eric Fry

Posted on 10/20/2009 6:38:23 PM PDT by blam

A Big, Fat Stock Market Selloff

By Eric Fry

10/20/09 Laguna Beach, California – Stocks prices are very, very high… Our contrarian colleagues over at The 5-Minute Forecast continuously lament…which means that the collective anxiety of investors is very, very low. Our colleagues don’t mind that a rising stock market is adding trillions of dollars to the asset side of household balance sheets. That’s good news. But the worrisome part is that a falling stock market could erase those trillions from the ledger just as quickly as they first appeared. And as our colleagues correctly point out, rising share prices, coincident with falling investor anxiety, usually adds up to a big, fat stock market selloff…

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: djia; doomandgloom; dow; investors; market; stockmarket; stocks; thecomingdepression
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1 posted on 10/20/2009 6:38:23 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Before the end of Oct we will see a major correction. I am completely in cash now.


2 posted on 10/20/2009 6:42:32 PM PDT by devane617
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To: blam

I am wondering if it happens before Halloween. The Dow is struggling to hold 10,000. I think it’s failure to hold 10,000 and the resistance it keeps hitting there will be a catalyst.


3 posted on 10/20/2009 6:43:33 PM PDT by Frantzie (Do we want ACORN running America's health care?)
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To: devane617

This is what I am thinking. It may go before the end of the month. We closed at 10.041.48.

Just after 12 noon we dipped below 10,000 - twice.


4 posted on 10/20/2009 6:45:57 PM PDT by Frantzie (Do we want ACORN running America's health care?)
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To: devane617

Well there’s never been a black Wednesday, so maybe tomorrow


5 posted on 10/20/2009 6:49:10 PM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: Frantzie
"Just after 12 noon we dipped below 10,000 - twice."

Yup. See here.

6 posted on 10/20/2009 6:51:28 PM PDT by blam
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To: qam1

October ALWAYS has a surprise, and the 10k mark seems like solid resistance, so tomorrow could be the day, but I am thinking early to mid next week.


7 posted on 10/20/2009 6:51:35 PM PDT by devane617
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To: blam

All the stocks in my portfolio continue to pay dividends. Some are paying ten or fifteen percent on my original investment.

Now why should I sell?


8 posted on 10/20/2009 6:53:05 PM PDT by proxy_user
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To: blam

EVERYONE wants a sell off or retracement to take the speculators out of the price.

Gold is in the had of the speculators. Move the dollar to 76 and you will see 50 points drop from spot gold in the same day.

Oil is in the hand of the speculators. Break 80 tomorrow with the dollar down and gold up and it is an easy long play. For no other reason than that is how things work when the markets are in the hands of speculators and not prices.

Earnings crushed today and the market was down. Why? Read above and look at today’s charts.


9 posted on 10/20/2009 6:57:58 PM PDT by WhoHuhWhat
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Why put equities into cash? P&G pays dividends selling essentials. Dollar pays nothing sells nothing and is aproaching Trinity.


10 posted on 10/20/2009 7:00:46 PM PDT by nkycincinnatikid
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To: devane617
Before the end of Oct we will see a major correction. I am completely in cash now.

I don't think so. Instability with high volumes precedes crashes. I don't see that happening this season. I'm in commodities, especially gold and even gold miners.

11 posted on 10/20/2009 7:08:34 PM PDT by chopperman
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A Big, Fat Stock Market Selloff

Nope. Don't see it.

Life (and theories thereof) would be so much easier if it did, but...

12 posted on 10/20/2009 7:09:49 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Fearing for the republic 24/7.)
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To: blam
Will be interesting to see what will happen with oil. The consumer demand just isn't there to support that price, and I doubt it's only the slipping dollar. Speculator-driven price can hold for a while. Probably depends on the holiday travel season, how cold the winter is, and how much gets bought the day after Thanksgiving.
13 posted on 10/20/2009 7:13:10 PM PDT by mysterio
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China is buying up oil on the open market, and the economy in India is back to normal, with people trading in bikes and scooters for cars. And it’s going to be a cold winter....

That’s your demand.


14 posted on 10/20/2009 7:18:35 PM PDT by proxy_user
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To: chopperman

I hope your commodities had copper (up 180%) and not just gold (15%).

The largest wheat buyer for hedging buys something like 200k contracts on the commodities market. Yet 20 million are traded. What does that tell you?

Gold bugs should talk to the oil bugs that were long at $140. I’m a big Harry Dent fan, so I would never poo-poo a commodities bubble trader at this time. I’m just saying, it’s a trade, not an investment.


15 posted on 10/20/2009 7:23:00 PM PDT by WhoHuhWhat
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To: devane617
I've been thinking about buying the index fund SH and shorting the market. I think stock prices are too high and headed for a correction. Something will come along and trigger the beginning of the sell off. If panic sets in the sell off could turn into something much bigger. I also think that gold will have a sharp decline to shake out the weak hands before it makes its next move past $1200.
16 posted on 10/20/2009 7:50:20 PM PDT by peeps36 (Democrats Don't Need No Stinking Input From You Little People)
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To: mysterio

What drove it to $140+ last year? Consumer demand, holiday travel, cold...summer?

It’s a dollar trade to a point. After that the speculators take over and get burned or win just like anyone else.


17 posted on 10/20/2009 7:50:32 PM PDT by WhoHuhWhat
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To: peeps36

If you are an Options trader, taking a quick short position could be a cheap way to make big bucks, with little downside.


18 posted on 10/20/2009 7:53:13 PM PDT by devane617
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To: blam

Yesterday I executed a SELL order and cashed out everything. I regained about 40% above what the low point was. That’s good enough for me considering I improved upon my original investments, although in deflated dollar value, the gains are less in 2009 dollars compared to the 2000-2006 dollars I put in. But I see another down cycle because the economy is not as rosy as government propaganda is trying to lead people to believe.

No greed here. Just good fiscal planning with cash opportunity’s waiting.


19 posted on 10/20/2009 7:58:20 PM PDT by o_zarkman44 (Obama is the ultimate LIE!)
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To: peeps36

You will need long stops for this play. Like I said, everyone expects it, but that was 1000 points ago for fibs and E-Waves.

Let it turn on its own. Never try to pick a top or a bottom.


20 posted on 10/20/2009 8:00:40 PM PDT by WhoHuhWhat
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