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National Socialism - (yes we cana nd are heading this way)
Ludwig Von Mises Institute ^ | September 28, 1998 | Ralph Reiland

Posted on 10/20/2009 12:44:23 PM PDT by stockpirate

In 1944, Ludwig von Mises published one of his least-known masterworks: Omnipotent Government: The Rise of the Total State and Total War. Drawing on his prewar experience in Vienna, watching the rise of the national socialists in Germany (the Nazis), who would eventually take over his own homeland, he set out to draw parallels between the Russian and German experience with socialism.

It was common in those days, as it is in ours, to identify the Communists as leftist and the Nazis as rightists, as if they stood on opposite ends of the ideological spectrum. But Mises knew differently. They both sported the same ideological pedigree of socialism. "The German and Russian systems of socialism have in common the fact that the government has full control of the means of production. It decides what shall be produced and how. It allots to each individual a share of consumer's goods for his consumption."

The difference between the systems, wrote Mises, is that the German pattern "maintains private ownership of the means of production and keeps the appearance of ordinary prices, wages, and markets." But in fact the government directs production decisions, curbs entrepreneurship and the labor market, and determines wages and interest rates by central authority. "Market exchange," says Mises, "is only a sham."

Mises's account is confirmed by a remarkable book that appeared in 1939, published by Vanguard Press in New York City (and unfortunately out of print today). It is The Vampire Economy: Doing Business Under Fascism by Guenter Reimann, then a 35-year old German writer. Through contacts with German business owners, Reimann documented how the "monster machine" of the Nazis crushed the autonomy of the private sector through onerous regulations, harsh inspections, and the threat of confiscatory fines for petty offenses.

"Industrialists were visited by state auditors who had strict orders to examine the balance sheets and all bookkeeping entries of the company or individual businessman for the preceding two, three or more years until some error or false entry was found," explains Reimann. "The slightest formal mistake was punished with tremendous penalties. A fine of millions of marks was imposed for a single bookkeeping error."

Reimann quotes from a businessman's letter: "You have no idea how far state control goes and how much power the Nazi representatives have over our work. The worst of it is that they are so ignorant. These Nazi radicals think of nothing except ‘distributing the wealth.' Some businessmen have even started studying Marxist theories, so that they will have a better understanding of the present economic system.

"While state representatives are busily engaged in investigating and interfering, our agents and salesmen are handicapped because they never know whether or not a sale at a higher price will mean denunciation as a ‘profiteer' or ‘saboteur,' followed by a prison sentence. You cannot imagine how taxation has increased. Yet everyone is afraid to complain. Everywhere there is a growing undercurrent of bitterness. Everyone has his doubts about the system, unless he is very young, very stupid, or is bound to it by the privileges he enjoys.

"There are terrible times coming. If only I had succeeded in smuggling out $10,000 or even $5,000, I would leave Germany with my family. Business friends of mine are convinced that it will be the turn of the ‘white Jews' (which means us, Aryan businessmen) after the Jews have been expropriated. The difference between this and the Russian system is much less than you think, despite the fact that we are still independent businessmen."

As Mises says, "independent" only in a decorous sense. Under fascism, explains this businessman, the capitalist "must be servile to the representatives of the state" and "must not insist on rights, and must not behave as if his private property rights were still sacred." It's the businessman, characteristically independent, who is "most likely to get into trouble with the Gestapo for having grumbled incautiously."

"Of all businessmen, the small shopkeeper is the one most under control and most at the mercy of the party," recounts Reimann. "The party man, whose good will he must have, does not live in faraway Berlin; he lives right next door or right around the corner. This local Hitler gets a report every day on what is discussed in Herr Schultz's bakery and Herr Schmidt's butcher shop. He would regard these men as ‘enemies of the state' if they complained too much. That would mean, at the very least, the cutting of their quota of scarce and hence highly desirable goods, and it might mean the loss of their business licenses. Small shopkeepers and artisans are not to grumble."

"Officials, trained only to obey orders, have neither the desire, the equipment, nor the vision to modify rules to suit individual situations," Reimann explains. "The state bureaucrats, therefore, apply these laws rigidly and mechanically, without regard for the vital interests of essential parts of the national economy. Their only incentive to modify the letter of the law is in bribes from businessmen, who for their part use bribery as their only means of obtaining relief from a rigidity which they find crippling."

Says another businessman: "Each business move has become very complicated and is full of legal traps which the average businessman cannot determine because there are so many new decrees. All of us in business are constantly in fear of being penalized for the violation of some decree or law."

Business owners, explains another entrepreneur, cannot exist without a "collaborator," i.e., a "lawyer" with good contacts in the Nazi bureaucracy, one who "knows exactly how far you can circumvent the law." Nazi officials, explains Reimann, "obtain money for themselves by merely taking it from capitalists who have funds available with which to purchase influence and protection," paying for their protection "as did the helpless peasants of feudal days."

"It has gotten to the point where I cannot talk even in my own factory," laments a factory owner. "Accidentally, one of the workers overheard me grumbling about some new bureaucratic regulation and he immediately denounced me to the party and the Labor Front office."

Reports another factory owner: "The greater part of the week I don't see my factory at all. All this time I spend in visiting dozens of government commissions and offices in order to get raw materials I need. Then there are various tax problems to settle and I must have continual conferences and negotiations with the Price Commission. It sometimes seems as if I do nothing but that, and everywhere I go there are more leaders, party secretaries, and commissars to see."

In this totalitarian paradigm, a businessman, declares a Nazi decree, "practices his functions primarily as a representative of the State, only secondarily for his own sake." Complain, warns a Nazi directive, and "we shall take away the freedom still left you."

In 1933, six years before Reimann's book, Victor Klemperer, a Jewish academic in Dresden, made the following entry in his diary on February 21: "It is a disgrace that gets worse with every day that passes. And there's not a sound from anyone. Everyone's keeping his head down."

It is impossible to escape the parallels between Guenter Reimann's account of doing business under the Nazis and the "compassionate," "responsible," and regulated "capitalism" of today's U.S. economy today. At least the German government was frank enough to give the right name to its system of economic control.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bho44; bhofascism; democrats; obamafascism; socialism
I have posted this everal times over the last couple of years.
1 posted on 10/20/2009 12:44:24 PM PDT by stockpirate
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To: LucyT; null and void

PING


2 posted on 10/20/2009 12:45:12 PM PDT by stockpirate ("if my thought-dreams could be seen. They'd probably put my head in a guillotine" Dylan)
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To: stockpirate
The political spectrum should be set with State Power on the Left and Individual Liberty on the Right. On such a spectrum, American Democrats, German NAZIs and Soviet Communists are all peas in a pod.
3 posted on 10/20/2009 12:51:40 PM PDT by SampleMan (No one should die on a gov. waiting list., or go broke because the gov. has dictated their salary.)
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To: stockpirate
The 7 conditions (Warning signs)
that foster & fuel fascism are:

Are we becoming a fascist nation?

4 posted on 10/20/2009 12:55:17 PM PDT by the anti-liberal
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To: stockpirate

And no one on the left will recognize the danger,
because, after all,

“I’m a good person and I wouldn’t support such a thing”


5 posted on 10/20/2009 12:56:51 PM PDT by MrB (The only difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: SampleMan

“The political spectrum should be set with State Power on the Left and Individual Liberty on the Right. On such a spectrum, American Democrats, German NAZIs and Soviet Communists are all peas in a pod.”

NAZI’s on the right were only there because many didn’t know any better to call them out on this issue.


6 posted on 10/20/2009 12:57:16 PM PDT by stockpirate ("if my thought-dreams could be seen. They'd probably put my head in a guillotine" Dylan)
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To: stockpirate

If I understand correctly, the Nazis are listed on the “right” because of the Nationalism part of their agenda. The Left is “Internationalist” and doesn’t want to include nationalists.


7 posted on 10/20/2009 12:59:11 PM PDT by Little Ray (Obama is a kamikaze president aimed at the heart of this Republic.)
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To: stockpirate; thouworm; rxsid; GOPJ; Fred Nerks; null and void; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; ...

Off topic(?) ping.


8 posted on 10/20/2009 1:08:08 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 271 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Little Ray

No, they were listed on the right becasue it made conservatives in the uS look bad.

Hitler hated communism and communists and didn’t want to be put in the same box as them. So he claimed to be something else.

But NAZI’s were socialists just like our very own democrats today.


9 posted on 10/20/2009 1:12:57 PM PDT by stockpirate ("if my thought-dreams could be seen. They'd probably put my head in a guillotine" Dylan)
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To: Little Ray
"If I understand correctly, the Nazis are listed on the “right” because of the Nationalism part of their agenda. The Left is “Internationalist” and doesn’t want to include nationalists."


That may be so, but historically a liberal is one who supports equality and a conservative is one who supports order and authority. Both can lead to a powerful centralized State. Communists support equality while Nazis supported authority. In the end both ended up in an authoritarian State as they tried to impose their utopian ideals on an unwilling public. Both approaches are a threat to individual liberty. Conservatives in America have favored liberty as the American tradition was one rooted in liberty. What we call conservative, the rest of the world still calls liberal, as in "Classical Liberalism". Terms can be confusing.
10 posted on 10/20/2009 1:13:54 PM PDT by rob777 (Personal Responsibility is the Price of Freedom)
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To: stockpirate

Nazis and Communists were “opponents” because they were competing for adherents of the same mindset.


11 posted on 10/20/2009 1:14:53 PM PDT by MrB (The only difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Little Ray

The left aren’t “nationalists”, so they probably don’t fit the “Nazi” label,

but they sure fit the “International Fascist” label.


12 posted on 10/20/2009 1:16:04 PM PDT by MrB (The only difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: rob777

Since “equality” is usually “equality of outcome” (as opposed to “equality under the law”) and enforced by “order and authority” (i.e. bayonets), I usually have problems sorting those versions of “Left” and “Right.”


13 posted on 10/20/2009 1:20:16 PM PDT by Little Ray (Obama is a kamikaze president aimed at the heart of this Republic.)
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To: stockpirate

Nazi’s to the right,

Marxist Mao’s to the left,

Here I am!,

Back in the middle again.


14 posted on 10/20/2009 1:24:07 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Little Ray
That is why they both end up in totalitarianism. I have a problem with those versions as well. They refer to the philosophical starting point, not the end political result. This distinction is as old as the ancient Greeks who supported "democracy" vs. Plato who believed in the rule of the best and the brightest. (Philosopher Kings)

In the early stages leftists will rail against inequality and injustice and seek to correct the problem in the name of "the people". The revolutionary class is the oppressed and downtrodden, which makes it easier for leftists to reach out across national boundaries for allies. The end result is "International Socialism". Rightists will rail against the breakdown of order and authority. The revolutionary class is usually a racial or national entity. The end result is "National Socialism". It is harder for rightists to form an international socialist movement.
15 posted on 10/20/2009 1:32:12 PM PDT by rob777 (Personal Responsibility is the Price of Freedom)
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To: null and void
You know what I think:

 

 

16 posted on 10/20/2009 1:37:55 PM PDT by backhoe (All Across America, the Lights are being relit again...)
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To: stockpirate
I have posted this several times over the last couple of years.

Thank you for repeat posting this. We need people like you who speak out against whatever label Obama/Pelosi choose to put on the socialism they are trying to impose on us.

17 posted on 10/20/2009 3:05:00 PM PDT by TurtleUp ([...Insert today's quote from Community-Organizer-in-Chief...] - Obama, YOU LIE!)
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To: stockpirate

This is wayyy too wierd. I was discussing this exact topic with a European friend of mine earlier today. I log in to FR and it is one of the first things I see.
Those who refuse to learn from history....
We all know how it turned out.


18 posted on 10/20/2009 4:48:15 PM PDT by MestaMachine (One if by land, 2 if by sea, 3 if by Air Force 1.)
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To: stockpirate

Obama is a National Socialist
18 posts - 15 authors - Last post: Oct 27, 2008
| October 27, 2008 | Kevmo ... We called Obama a socialist because he definitely is one. .... http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2116981/posts


19 posted on 10/20/2009 9:20:11 PM PDT by Kevmo (So America gets what America deserves - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
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