Posted on 10/19/2009 1:37:18 PM PDT by cc2k
The special election to fill New York's vacant 23rd congressional seat is perhaps the earliest test of the GOP's chances to reclaim the House in 2010. Yet the GOP candidate, Dede Scozzafava, has struggled to line up Republican support, and has taken a pummeling from conservative groups that assert she's liberal. The Club for Growth and Eagle Forum, among others, support her opponent, Doug Hoffman, who's running on the Conservative Party ticket.
Add North Texas' Dick Armey to the list of conservative stars backing Hoffman. The former House Majority Leader has confirmed to the Hoffman campaign that he'll spend Thursday with them, said Rob Ryan, a Hoffman spokesman. "He is with us almost all day Thursday," Ryan told me. "There will be a bunch of different events." Armey's endorsement of Hoffman is personal and wasn't offered on behalf of FreedomWorks, the conservative foundation he chairs.
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Someone mentioned a liberal district and I made a general comment. If the district is conservative, then it is complete lunacy, and another argument to begn supporting third parties.
Vote out the RINO’s until the GOP has a nosebleed!
YOUR delusion is that anyone other than a Republican has ANY chance against the Left.
Barry Goldwater was 'right' but he couldn't win an important election either. Why are 'Conservatives' so adept at loosing elections?
>> So why aren’t the Republicans running a better candidate? If you ‘Conservatives’ don’t have enough support to get a good Republican on the ballet, how do you think you can possibly win an election? <<
You did read where there was no primary, right? Where this nomination was the product of a backdoor meeting between several county party chairman, right?
>> Barry Goldwater was ‘right’ but he couldn’t win an important election either. Why are ‘Conservatives’ so adept at loosing elections? <<
That’s your own idiotic assertion, which bears no resemblance to reality. Better question: Why are Illinois, New York, California, Massachusetts, and even Vermont once bastions of the Republican Party helplessly Democratic? Is it because Vermont has more minority voters than South Carolina? Is it because the urban nature of Vermont makes Vermont voters more reflexively communitarian? No, it’s because idiots thought that people like James Jeffords and Nelson Rockefeller were more “electable” than conservatives like Ronald Reagan. So while Vermont voters have fewer abortions than Georgia or Texas, more gun club memberships than Oklahoma, are less likely to voice support income redistribution than Alaskans or Utahans, have demographics that skew much more to the Republican base than just about anywhere else in America, and have a healthy, well-funded Republican party, they repeatedly elect the most radically left-wing senators in America. Why is that? Because the state is crawling with people who think like you. In New York, Massachusetts and California, it’s worse than that. When even Republican governors assault conservatism regularly, the voters have no place to even hear a conservative argument, so conservatives become thought of as a wierd, alien race.
Well lets hope you’re right. Too bad you can’t recall him now.
Thank you. Take care...
The Bandwagon rolls on! He can win this race, and I hope the GOP wises up and pulls their candidate.
I am strongly in favor of a third party. Something like the Green Party, that will siphon liberal votes away from Democrats and help Republicans get elected.
No. The information from your "source" is misleading.
AUGUST 8, 2009 | Watertown Daily Times | Excerpt:Ms. Scozzafava ran on the Working Families and Conservative party lines in 2004. The assemblywoman had intended to do the same in 2006 until she lost the lines in a petition challenge.
Dede was endorced by both the Conservative Party AND the the WFP at the same time in 2004.
Both dropped their endorcement in 2006.
The Conservative Party is being hypocritical when it complains that Scozzafava was endorced by the WFP because they endorced this pro-abort during the same election as the WFP in 2004.
Something smells funny at the NY "Conservative" Party.
She isn’t a RINO, she is a flaming liberal.
Correct. As I recall, my "source" never stated otherwise.
The Conservative Party started having doubts about Dede but endorsed her until Dede sought and received the WFP endorsement. Dede, then, for a time, did have both endorsements until the Conservative Party withdrew their endorsement.
I don't know how many hours, days or weeks Dede did have both endorsements before the Conservative Party acted, but it's important to note that the Conservative Party did act properly. Republicans have rarely, if ever, withdrew their support for a going left politician.
How can it be regardless?
In NC Obama won by less then 25,000 votes, Barr got more than 25,000 votes.
Yeah, but if (I can't prove it) ACORN and Dem fraud also amounted to more than 25K votes, then eliminating Barr **OR** fraud would have changed the results.
Conservative third party votes in the general election get the D elected.
Rule of thumb that is true. I don't think that invalidates to the idea of 3rd party conservative candidates in lower level elections. Kind of the opposite. Seems a good way to send a message to the RNC without the Ross Perot effect.
Look at NY. This election has been turned into a national referendum on Republican party orientation. I hope and believe it could send an intimidating message to the party elite. Multiple election situations like this could really help. It is (potentially) a path to conservative takeover of the Republican party. At least if we are to assume control of the rudder, this seems like a viable way to do it.
In NC Obama won by less than 25,000 votes. More than 25,000 people voted for Barr.
Say what you will. It does not change the fact that if the 25,000 Barr voters had voted for “Palin” then she would have kept NC.
I make my fight in the primaries not the general election.
I agree with that. I'm just saying that Dem voter fraud probably accounted for that number also.
Probably stroked himself as he looked at the NC returns that night.
In a close race a third party can only be a spoiler.
But I will add the 23rd NY race is not the typical 3rd party race.
The Conservative Party could win but they need to educate the Republican voters in that district.
Obviously you've never heard of Ronald Reagan and how he won by huge landslides because he was smart enough to appeal to the vast majority of Conservatives regardless their party.
But why let a little history get in the way of a perfectly good fantasy eh?
Add to this the opportunities for fraud presented by the presence of millions of undocumented illegals and the absence of enforceable ID requirements in many states, MSM acting as the publicity arm of the Dem Party, as well as the intimidation, chicanery and outright election theft at which Dems are much more accomplished, and the organizational advantages being built by 0, and I believe that Republicans will always face an uphill struggle on the national level in the future -- even if they somehow manage to get their act together. In fact, I'll gladly buy you dinner at a restaurant of your choosing if a Republican ever again wins a presidential election by anything close to Reaganesque landslides.
The demographics are no different. We just haven't had a man with the ba**s to stand up for what's right running for office.
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