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Emanuel: Bush never asked key questions on Afghanistan
CNN ^ | 18 October 2009 | Dodger

Posted on 10/18/2009 11:51:53 AM PDT by dodger

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Remarks of Senator Obama: The War We Need to Win
Washington, DC | August 01, 2007

Thank you Lee, for hosting me here at the Wilson Center, and for your leadership of both the 9/11 Commission and the Iraq Study Group. You have been a steady voice of reason in an unsteady time.

Let me also say that my thoughts and prayers are with your colleague, Haleh Esfandiari, and her family. I have made my position known to the Iranian government. It is time for Haleh to be released. It is time for Haleh to come home.

Thanks to the 9/11 Commission, we know that six years ago this week President Bush received a briefing with the headline: "Bin Ladin determined to strike in U.S."

It came during what the Commission called the "summer of threat," when the "system was blinking red" about an impending attack. But despite the briefing, many felt the danger was overseas, a threat to embassies and military installations. The extremism, the resentment, the terrorist training camps, and the killers were in the dark corners of the world, far away from the American homeland.

Then, one bright and beautiful Tuesday morning, they were here.

I was driving to a state legislative hearing in downtown Chicago when I heard the news on my car radio: a plane had hit the World Trade Center. By the time I got to my meeting, the second plane had hit, and we were told to evacuate.

People gathered in the streets and looked up at the sky and the Sears Tower, transformed from a workplace to a target. We feared for our families and our country. We mourned the terrible loss suffered by our fellow citizens. Back at my law office, I watched the images from New York: a plane vanishing into glass and steel; men and women clinging to windowsills, then letting go; tall towers crumbling to dust. It seemed all of the misery and all of the evil in the world were in that rolling black cloud, blocking out the September sun.

What we saw that morning forced us to recognize that in a new world of threats, we are no longer protected by our own power. And what we saw that morning was a challenge to a new generation.

The history of America is one of tragedy turned into triumph. And so a war over secession became an opportunity to set the captives free. An attack on Pearl Harbor led to a wave of freedom rolling across the Atlantic and Pacific. An Iron Curtain was punctured by democratic values, new institutions at home, and strong international partnerships abroad.

After 9/11, our calling was to write a new chapter in the American story. To devise new strategies and build new alliances, to secure our homeland and safeguard our values, and to serve a just cause abroad. We were ready. Americans were united. Friends around the world stood shoulder to shoulder with us. We had the might and moral-suasion that was the legacy of generations of Americans. The tide of history seemed poised to turn, once again, toward hope.

But then everything changed.

We did not finish the job against al Qaeda in Afghanistan. We did not develop new capabilities to defeat a new enemy, or launch a comprehensive strategy to dry up the terrorists' base of support. We did not reaffirm our basic values, or secure our homeland.

Instead, we got a color-coded politics of fear. Patriotism as the possession of one political party. The diplomacy of refusing to talk to other countries. A rigid 20th century ideology that insisted that the 21st century's stateless terrorism could be defeated through the invasion and occupation of a state. A deliberate strategy to misrepresent 9/11 to sell a war against a country that had nothing to do with 9/11.

And so, a little more than a year after that bright September day, I was in the streets of Chicago again, this time speaking at a rally in opposition to war in Iraq. I did not oppose all wars, I said. I was a strong supporter of the war in Afghanistan. But I said I could not support "a dumb war, a rash war" in Iraq. I worried about a " U.S. occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences" in the heart of the Muslim world. I pleaded that we "finish the fight with bin Ladin and al Qaeda."

The political winds were blowing in a different direction. The President was determined to go to war. There was just one obstacle: the U.S. Congress. Nine days after I spoke, that obstacle was removed. Congress rubber-stamped the rush to war, giving the President the broad and open-ended authority he uses to this day. With that vote, Congress became co-author of a catastrophic war. And we went off to fight on the wrong battlefield, with no appreciation of how many enemies we would create, and no plan for how to get out.

Because of a war in Iraq that should never have been authorized and should never have been waged, we are now less safe than we were before 9/11.

According to the National Intelligence Estimate, the threat to our homeland from al Qaeda is "persistent and evolving." Iraq is a training ground for terror, torn apart by civil war. Afghanistan is more violent than it has been since 2001. Al Qaeda has a sanctuary in Pakistan. Israel is besieged by emboldened enemies, talking openly of its destruction. Iran is now presenting the broadest strategic challenge to the United States in the Middle East in a generation. Groups affiliated with or inspired by al Qaeda operate worldwide. Six years after 9/11, we are again in the midst of a "summer of threat," with bin Ladin and many more terrorists determined to strike in the United States.

What's more, in the dark halls of Abu Ghraib and the detention cells of Guantanamo, we have compromised our most precious values. What could have been a call to a generation has become an excuse for unchecked presidential power. A tragedy that united us was turned into a political wedge issue used to divide us.

It is time to turn the page. It is time to write a new chapter in our response to 9/11.

Just because the President misrepresents our enemies does not mean we do not have them. The terrorists are at war with us. The threat is from violent extremists who are a small minority of the world's 1.3 billion Muslims, but the threat is real. They distort Islam. They kill man, woman and child; Christian and Hindu, Jew and Muslim. They seek to create a repressive caliphate. To defeat this enemy, we must understand who we are fighting against, and what we are fighting for.

The President would have us believe that every bomb in Baghdad is part of al Qaeda's war against us, not an Iraqi civil war. He elevates al Qaeda in Iraq -- which didn't exist before our invasion -- and overlooks the people who hit us on 9/11, who are training new recruits in Pakistan. He lumps together groups with very different goals: al Qaeda and Iran, Shiite militias and Sunni insurgents. He confuses our mission.

And worse -- he is fighting the war the terrorists want us to fight. Bin Ladin and his allies know they cannot defeat us on the field of battle or in a genuine battle of ideas. But they can provoke the reaction we've seen in Iraq: a misguided invasion of a Muslim country that sparks new insurgencies, ties down our military, busts our budgets, increases the pool of terrorist recruits, alienates America, gives democracy a bad name, and prompts the American people to question our engagement in the world.

By refusing to end the war in Iraq, President Bush is giving the terrorists what they really want, and what the Congress voted to give them in 2002: a U.S. occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences.

It is time to turn the page. When I am President, we will wage the war that has to be won, with a comprehensive strategy with five elements: getting out of Iraq and on to the right battlefield in Afghanistan and Pakistan; developing the capabilities and partnerships we need to take out the terrorists and the world's most deadly weapons; engaging the world to dry up support for terror and extremism; restoring our values; and securing a more resilient homeland.

The first step must be getting off the wrong battlefield in Iraq, and taking the fight to the terrorists in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

I introduced a plan in January that would have already started bringing our troops out of Iraq, with a goal of removing all combat brigades by March 31, 2008. If the President continues to veto this plan, then ending this war will be my first priority when I take office.

There is no military solution in Iraq. Only Iraq's leaders can settle the grievances at the heart of Iraq's civil war. We must apply pressure on them to act, and our best leverage is reducing our troop presence. And we must also do the hard and sustained diplomatic work in the region on behalf of peace and stability.

In ending the war, we must act with more wisdom than we started it. That is why my plan would maintain sufficient forces in the region to target al Qaeda within Iraq. But we must recognize that al Qaeda is not the primary source of violence in Iraq, and has little support -- not from Shia and Kurds who al Qaeda has targeted, or Sunni tribes hostile to foreigners. On the contrary, al Qaeda's appeal within Iraq is enhanced by our troop presence.

Ending the war will help isolate al Qaeda and give Iraqis the incentive and opportunity to take them out. It will also allow us to direct badly needed resources to Afghanistan. Our troops have fought valiantly there, but Iraq has deprived them of the support they need—and deserve. As a result, parts of Afghanistan are falling into the hands of the Taliban, and a mix of terrorism, drugs, and corruption threatens to overwhelm the country.

As President, I would deploy at least two additional brigades to Afghanistan to re-enforce our counter-terrorism operations and support NATO's efforts against the Taliban. As we step up our commitment, our European friends must do the same, and without the burdensome restrictions that have hampered NATO's efforts. We must also put more of an Afghan face on security by improving the training and equipping of the Afghan Army and Police, and including Afghan soldiers in U.S. and NATO operations.

We must not, however, repeat the mistakes of Iraq. The solution in Afghanistan is not just military -- it is political and economic. As President, I would increase our non-military aid by $1 billion. These resources should fund projects at the local level to impact ordinary Afghans, including the development of alternative livelihoods for poppy farmers. And we must seek better performance from the Afghan government, and support that performance through tough anti-corruption safeguards on aid, and increased international support to develop the rule of law across the country.

Above all, I will send a clear message: we will not repeat the mistake of the past, when we turned our back on Afghanistan following Soviet withdrawal. As 9/11 showed us, the security of Afghanistan and America is shared. And today, that security is most threatened by the al Qaeda and Taliban sanctuary in the tribal regions of northwest Pakistan.

More BS on Ibama's official website - http://www.barackobama.com/2007/08/01/the_war_we_need_to_win.php

21 posted on 10/18/2009 12:08:30 PM PDT by Libloather (Tea Totaler, PROUD Birther, Mobster, Pro-lifer, Anti-warmer)
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To: dodger

(cough)BS(cough)


22 posted on 10/18/2009 12:11:13 PM PDT by savedbygrace (You are only leading if someone follows. Otherwise, you just wandered off... [Smokin' Joe])
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To: Libloather
Thansks for the WOWSERS ...

OBAMA in His own words, August 1st 2007 -

It is time to turn the page. When I am President, we will wage the war that has to be won, with a comprehensive strategy with five elements: getting out of Iraq and on to the right battlefield in Afghanistan and Pakistan; developing the capabilities and partnerships we need to take out the terrorists and the world's most deadly weapons; engaging the world to dry up support for terror and extremism; restoring our values; and securing a more resilient homeland.

23 posted on 10/18/2009 12:14:00 PM PDT by dodger
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To: savedbygrace
Can you say NATO.

Congress became so obsessed with Iraq, they basically ignored Afghanistan. But the Prez didn't. They had elections, Karzai was in and the war was relatively quiet...until more of the Pakistanis started their dirty deeds. The tribe mentality is the problem.

I can still remember Usama telling his Pak buddies to go back to Pakistan until I tell you to come....

25 posted on 10/18/2009 12:17:36 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: dodger
Well, did it ever occur to them that maybe President Bush was busy with another war? A war, in fact, that was being so roundly opposed by members of Obama’s party that it took 10 or 15 times as much work to handle than it would have sans the constant attacks and lies on Bush and about the war in Iraq.

What a crock! They did everything in their power to side with the enemy in the Iraq war, made Bush's job infinitely more difficult, and then complain that he missed something about another war!

There are simply no words to express the disgust I have for the Democrats and the way they bitched and moaned about, and openly obstructed, every aspect of our attempts to fight the war in Iraq, and especially the number of Americans who died in that war because the enemy within kept offering hope that we would give up and run away.

26 posted on 10/18/2009 12:21:51 PM PDT by jwparkerjr (God Bless America, and wake us up while you're about it!)
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To: dodger

Was he ever in the meetings to know what questions President Bush asked to say something like this. That’s why these morons hate Fox News, because Fox News will not let them get away with the excrement they’re trying to feed us as the truth. Good for Fox and that’s I only watch Fox for news.


27 posted on 10/18/2009 12:22:29 PM PDT by quesera (We are so screwed!!)
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Or to paraphrase:

“Blither blather, blah blah, blather.”

There is no strategy for Afghanistan, nor are there any questions being asked. Zero just wishes the whole problem to disappear so he can go about what he really wants to be doing - socializing everything that’s left of our nation.


28 posted on 10/18/2009 12:27:51 PM PDT by eclecticEel (The Most High rules in the kingdom of men ... and sets over it the basest of men.)
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Message to Infantile Rahm: YOU LIE.


29 posted on 10/18/2009 12:30:45 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Throw the bums out who vote yes on the bail out)
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To: dodger

Well, I for one am quite sure that Dear Leader has been in contact with Bin Laden and that poor misunderstood freedom fighter will shortly agree with the Nobel Prize Committee and happily agree to meet and confer with Dear Leader.

I sleep better at night knowing that Dear Leader is in firm control of the situation.


30 posted on 10/18/2009 12:41:44 PM PDT by Happyinmygarden (Yes, actually, I have pretty much seen and heard it all before...)
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How does this POS know?


31 posted on 10/18/2009 12:47:07 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: dodger

OBAMA (like all democrats politicians) always find a cynical way to talk tough on security and foreign affairs in order to fool the benumbed middle of the electorate ... once in office they resume their leftist foolishness and appeasement.


32 posted on 10/18/2009 1:18:23 PM PDT by dodger
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Paging Dick Cheney . . .


33 posted on 10/18/2009 1:29:04 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Hear us, O Bama: Mmm, mmm, mmm.)
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THIS IS COMPLETE BULLSH*T. WHAT A LYING JACKASS.


34 posted on 10/18/2009 1:41:12 PM PDT by GodfearingTexan
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To: GodfearingTexan

In any responsible position in life, only a coward and a fool blames his predecessor for his current plight. When will the statute of limitations end for these cretins?


35 posted on 10/18/2009 1:56:54 PM PDT by fabjr60 ("I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed, or numbered! My life is my own.Â)
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This crew will be blaming Bush for their own shortcomings for the full four (G-d forbid, eight) years. The one thing they're solid and consistent on is shamelessness.
36 posted on 10/18/2009 2:04:07 PM PDT by Dagnabitt (What (child) would Mohammad do?)
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To: Brilliant

Not only are they not as afraid, they know they can make this pansy ass president quit if they put up any kind of resistance whatsoever. That’s why they have amped up their resistance. What an embarrassment.


37 posted on 10/18/2009 2:13:38 PM PDT by SpitfyrAce
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To: Jeff Chandler

Paging Dick Cheney . . .

Exactly what I was thinking!


38 posted on 10/18/2009 2:34:23 PM PDT by timetostand
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