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1 posted on 10/18/2009 11:29:26 AM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne

George Monbiot calls this a myth, saying “People who claim that population growth is the big environmental issue are shifting the blame from the rich to the poor”

http://www.monbiot.com/archives/2009/09/29/the-population-myth/


2 posted on 10/18/2009 11:31:00 AM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne
"Americans, the world's greatest per-capita emitters of greenhouse gas emissions, produce about 20 tons of the stuff per person, per year."

Well, muzzies 'outrabbit' us by a factor of what? 6 to 1?....We're in trouble if they all acquire anything near our standard of wealth...Ain't we? /SARC

3 posted on 10/18/2009 11:37:15 AM PDT by litehaus (A memory tooooo long)
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To: Lorianne
Americans, the world's greatest per-capita emitters of greenhouse gas emissions, produce about 20 tons of the stuff per person, per year. If we were to cut that in half, as emissions rose with the quality of life in much of the Third World, and everyone on the planet met around 10 tons per person, per year, simple multiplication says we'd collectively emit 90 billion tons of carbon dioxide annually come 2050.

This jackass thinks the West should relegate itself to oblivion while the non-producing world explodes.

As much as this guy professes to give a damn about world overpopulation and dwindling resources, you'll never see him advocate for Blacks or Hispanics to regulate the size of their families. It's only the Whites in the U.S. or Europe who are the abusers of global resources.

The nations with the most going on intellectually, creatively, and a business acumen, are the ones he wishes to see fade away.

What then, when the world's masses of poor have expanded exponentially beyond what the producing nations can support?

Hell if this asshole knows...

4 posted on 10/18/2009 11:37:27 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Deficit spending, trade deficits, unsecure mortages, worthless paper... ... not a problem. Oh yeah?)
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To: Lorianne

This is getting closer to the main point.

Environmentalists, such as the Sierra Club, must be confronted with their chosen avoidance of issues that are related to their initiatives.

Excessive immigration (both illegal and government-sanctioned), combined with society’s obligation to provide free food/medical/education/housing/welfare for anchor babies and their uneducated parents, has driven a population increase within demographics that are less productive in our society.

This results in consumption of land/fuel/food/water to unsustainable levels, which is largely financed by borrowing from foreign countries like China.

When illegal immigrants start large forest fires (as in Santa Barbara this year), will the government in Mexico City pay their fair share of “carbon credits” to compensate the planetary climate for the actions of their citizens?


5 posted on 10/18/2009 11:42:41 AM PDT by research99
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To: Lorianne

Right.

The one country that does the MOST to help the world, with new medicines, AIDS help, foreign assistance, tsunami relief, charity ——— that’s the country that should die off or get as small as we can.

Not Russia, China, Cuba, N Korea ———— those communist hell holes should keep on expanding their dirty factories til they rule the world !!!!!!!


7 posted on 10/18/2009 11:51:02 AM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: Lorianne

*There are about 6.8 billion people on the planet today, a number projected to get to 9 billion by 2050. Americans, the world’s greatest per-capita emitters of greenhouse gas emissions, produce about 20 tons of the stuff per person, per year. If we were to cut that in half, as emissions rose with the quality of life in much of the Third World, and everyone on the planet met around 10 tons per person, per year, simple multiplication says we’d collectively emit 90 billion tons of carbon dioxide annually come 2050.*

Nothing that a good global war wouldn’t solve.


9 posted on 10/18/2009 11:52:37 AM PDT by j-damn
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To: Lorianne

To all environmentalists (including the Elmer Gantry of Environmentalism - Al Gore) who believe that they want to save the Earth from the carbon footprint of another human being and openly advocate suicide, my response is........ “Feel Free!”

This is a mindless descent into paganism. Humans are not the problems, idiocy is. The solutions come from humanity.

The truth is that the population growth rates will peak within the next 50 years and then decline. Industrialization has done this to almost every society it has touched.


10 posted on 10/18/2009 12:04:00 PM PDT by Titus-Maximus (Light from Light)
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To: Lorianne

Population will rise in the next few decades because the old are living longer - not because too many babies are being born. In fact, true demographic research shows a huge problem after the bulge of older citizens die. Populations will be falling dramatically. Russia knows this, Japan knows this, many European countries know this.

http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2009/jan/09012611.html

WASHINGTON, DC, January 26, 2009 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Celebrated columnist and pro-family leader Don Feder gave a jaw-dropping presentation on the coming ‘Demographic Winter’ at the Rose Dinner which closes the official March for Life festivities every year. Speaking to hundreds of attendees, Feder suggested that the demographic problem of worldwide declining birthrates “could result in the greatest crisis humanity will confront in this century” as “all over the world, children are disappearing.”

“In the Western world, birthrates are falling and populations are aging,” said Feder. “The consequences for your children and grandchildren could well be catastrophic.”

Feder noted, “In 30 years, worldwide, birth rates have fallen by more than 50%. In 1979, the average woman on this planet had 6 children. Today, the average is 2.9 children, and falling.” He explained the situation noting, “demographers tell us that with a birthrate of 1.3, everything else being equal, a nation will lose half of its population every 45 years.”

Beyond an inability to pay for pensions, it is likely that euthanasia will be one looked-to solution to the aging crisis, he said.

“Demographic Winter is the terminal stage in the suicide of the West - the culmination of a century of evil ideas and poisonous policies,’” he said. Among them he listed:....


11 posted on 10/18/2009 12:21:29 PM PDT by MassRepublican
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To: narses; holdonnow; Salvation; Fudd Fan; Bahbah; mware; Clint N. Suhks; rodguy911; tiredoflaundry

ping

Welcome to China, get ready for the child tax.


14 posted on 10/18/2009 12:50:38 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Lord forgive me... we know he's anti-Christ. The pride and chaos get him the pit again.)
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To: Lorianne
But, of course, we humans are only an infestation on this planet. If this wonderful planet is to live, we must relinquish the silly idea that humans are special.

Ah, yes, Population Bomb Redux.

16 posted on 10/18/2009 1:05:59 PM PDT by FourPeas (Why does Professor Presbury's wolfhound, Roy, endeavour to bite him?)
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To: Lorianne

Something to think about here.

Deaths in America per year
1,400,000 people die from abortion
650,000 people die of heart disease
560,000 people die of cancer
143,000 people die of stroke
75,000 people die of diabetes

Another perspective:
18,000 - Deaths by death penalty in American history (all the way back to the 1600s).
1,315,000 - Deaths in all American wars combined.
50,000,000 - Deaths by abortion since Roe v Wade


19 posted on 10/18/2009 5:28:02 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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