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To: rabscuttle385

The problem occurred long before this transfer of funds. The die is cast. The Republican candidate is a RINO. The furor raised by this thread should have happened during the nomination process.

Splitting non-Dem votes between a RINO and a conservative who cannot win is pointless. Why are there so many people here who want to shoot themselves in the foot?

It is silly to expect the national Republican leadership to support the Conservative Party candidate! Go ahead and complain that the Republicans selected a RINO. I agree that it is frustrating. Would this district be able to elect a conservative in a general election? The fact that a RINO got the nomination suggests not. I know that in my district a RINO need not apply.


41 posted on 10/16/2009 11:54:11 AM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: the_Watchman
We've got the same thing here in IL with Mark Kirk. He's a RINO, through-and-through; but he's the only possible Republican who can win a statewide senate race right now.

I have given-up having outrage over running RINOs in blue states and blue districts. My outrage now gets focused on RINO-backing by the RNC in red states and red districts (see: Senate races in NE, FL, Coburn’s Senate run, Graham in South Carolina, etc.)

I mean, I can understand the need to nominate a Mike Castle, or a Mark Kirk, or a Whitman; but I don't have any understanding for siding with RINOs in primaries where a more conservative candidate could win in the general (Florida, for example).

However, I think it is becoming a very unseemly habit of our modern GOP -— that is, taking sides in GOP PRIMARIES.

47 posted on 10/16/2009 12:07:32 PM PDT by TitansAFC (Socialism is a disease; Sarah Palin is the cure. Palin/Romney 2012 or Palin/Gingrich 2012!!)
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To: the_Watchman
Why are there so many people here who want to shoot themselves in the foot?

Maybe it feels good ? It is not my cup of tea, but I'm not a masochist either.

106 posted on 10/17/2009 12:57:33 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: the_Watchman; MNJohnnie; TitansAFC; rabscuttle385; BillyBoy; Irish Eyes; campaignPete R-CT; ...
The problem occurred long before this transfer of funds. The die is cast. The Republican candidate is a RINO. The furor raised by this thread should have happened during the nomination process.

She was selected by ignorant local party bosses (no primary), people did complain, a deaf ear was turned.

I'm disappointed to see Newt Gingrich endorse this RINO. Even more so to see freepers shill for her.

In case you didn't know she's not a moderate and she's not a Republican. Hoffman is the only Republican in the race. The democrats tried to get her to run for them. She's an extreme social liberal (to the left of the country not just to the left of the GOP) her husband is a union bigwig and she's been backed in the past by the Acorn-supported Working Families Party. Sounds like a democrat to me. I'm okay with moderates being in the party. A moderate Republican can be about 60% conservative (think Norm Coleman). The NY Conservative party says Dede was 15% conservative last year (several rats in the leg did better). She's pro-gun (so are area rats), that's about all she seems to agree with Republicans on. She is not a member in good standing of the Republican party with her views.

I'd bet if it's ever 217-217 and her that she'll vote Pelosi for Speaker. She is Jim Jeffords in frumpy skirt.

So what's to do? A Republican was nominated on the Conservative party line. If the NRSC had sense it would back him. Dede Scuzzobama will win votes that otherwise would go to the rat thus A 3-way race here is winnable. Keep in mind this is not a NYC district. It's a historically GOP seat that has been evenly divided in recent POTUS elections. The race would be infinitely more winnable if the NRCC wasn't throwing money at that (LITERAL) RINO slag Dede Scuzzobama.

If the regular rat wins due to GOP party and GOP voter ignorance in letting Working Family's Party socialist Scuzzobama steal votes from the Republican Hoffman , so be it. It will be embarrassing and set off stupid MSM articles about a "GOP split" but we get a do over in November 2010 (after a PRIMARY). If Dede wins the NRCC will foolishly back her to the hilt in 2010 wasting money on her and we could be stuck with her for years.

Is the rat "more conservative" than her? I wouldn't say so. He's claiming to be a "blue dog" that means a BSing liberal who talks like a centrist. But is he measurably worse? Doubtful. At least he's openly a democrat rather than a mole in the GOP who will steal GOP votes and GOP funds and take up GOP committee seats in the house.

The choice is clear, the Republican Conservative Hoffman, not the female Vito Marcantonio (look him up, would you have voted for him?) Dede Scuzzobama.

110 posted on 10/17/2009 6:10:07 AM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN | NO "INDIVIDUAL MANDATE"!!!!!!!)
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To: the_Watchman
Splitting non-Dem votes between a RINO and a conservative who cannot win is pointless.

The GOP's promotion of RINO's who will split the votes is what is pointless. All they need to do is promote candidates that Republicans want to vote for. "Vote for us because we may not be quite as bad" is not much of a campaign slogan and it is getting really old.

143 posted on 10/18/2009 6:16:49 AM PDT by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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