Children & Families Suffered in Mao Purges (Anita Dunn's Beloved "1947" of China Reviewed)

Telegraph UK ^ | 31 October 2008 | Malcom Moore

[gimme1ibertee]

Gee....what could all of this possibly mean...?
(as said by a Zero voter-now)

[gimme1ibertee]

Ooops..sorry.
I should just get coffee before even approaching a computer. I'm off work this week and I can't wait to get on FR first thing after I feed the kitties and grab my bowl of cereal. I live for Jim Thompson and Drudge! :P

[Fee]

Class warfare was ready to boil over in China since the fall of the last Manchu ruler and first Republic in 1911. It serves as a lesson to all nations on what happens when a few rich people run an entire nation. Obviously the Communist are anti rich and once they seize power they will go after them, but the anger of the peasants at the rich in China is also genuine. Dominant local families during KMT actually ran many local provinces. Many even had their own armies, imposed taxes, shut out all competitors, bribed KMT officials, loaned money to peasants that they knew they cannot repay and ended up creating indentured servants out of them. Their adult children can wander about and do almost anything with little or no legal consequences. When the Communist took over, all they had to do is unleash this resevoir of anger. (People in government and Wall Street bankstas should take note, screwing Main Street will have consequences). Here is the biggest irony for the Communist Chinese, today their Communist local officials and their family members are acting like the spoil thugs/brats of the warlords they punished. Must be a Chinese thing.

[tet68]

Fee says it must be a Chinese thing.
I think it’s more a human thing, some thing that
happens when you give power to some people and they
find they can use it for personal gratification.

Also, reading this thread reminded me of my younger
days as an itinerant musician, I was living in Seattle
as an apprentice to a musical instrument maker.
I lived in a boarding house and one of the other tenants
was a Maoist, yet he worked in a bank. I used to rag him
about it but he always came back that he was working
on the inside of capitalism to tear it down.

Thinking about this today I realized this man today
would have been my age and could have been a influential
bank president by now.

Fee’s mention of the relatives of the KMT making loans
to the peasants they couldn’t repay creating anger at
the ruling class is so reminiscent of the real estate
collapse of today, I have to wonder if it was not planned
that way from the very beginning?

Also thank you for your very insightful posts,
one of the things I like about FR is talking
with conservative people who live in other countries.

Your FRiend Tet.

[AmericanInTokyo]

Well, Ms. Dunn made a statement, and she is a scholared-woman. She needs to be pressed and to stand by her statement that Mao Tse Tung is her favorite and whom she turns to. That means, in other words, Ms. Dunn, answer the damned question. Which one of his books do you like the best, and for what reasons? You can chose. You have read him and indicated your inspiration of him as a philosopher. That means you have read his works, wherein his philosophic writings are contained. These are his works. Now TELL US...and WHY!

The Art of War by Mao Tse-Tung Softcover, El Paso Norte Pr, ISBN 097607267X (0-9760726-7-X) A Critique of Soviet Economics by Mao Tse-Tung, Moss Roberts, James Peck Softcover, Monthly Review Press, ISBN 0853454590 (0-85345-459-0) More editions of A Critique of Soviet Economics: A Critique of Soviet Economics: Hardcover, Monthly Review Press, ISBN 0853454124 (0-85345-412-4) Dr. Sun Yat Sen: Commemorative Articles and Speeches by Mao Tse-Tung, Soong Ching Ling, Chou En-lai Softcover, University Press of the Pacific, ISBN 141020569X (1-4102-0569-X) Five Articles by Chairman Mao Tsetung by Mao Tse Tung Softcover, China Books & Periodicals, ISBN 0835109704 (0-8351-0970-4) viaLiterature and Art by Mao Tse-Tung Softcover, University Press of the Pacific, ISBN 089875206X (0-89875-206-X) Lu Xun Selected Works by Mao Tse-Tung Hardcover, China Books & Periodicals, ISBN 0835107477 (0-8351-0747-7) Mao Tse-Tung: An Anthology of His Writing by Mao Tse-Tung Hardcover, Amereon Ltd, ISBN 0848812093 (0-8488-1209-3) Mao Tse-Tung: Four Essays on Philosophy by Mao Tse-Tung Softcover, University Press of the Pacific, ISBN 0898751810 (0-89875-181-0) Mao Tse-Tung on Coalition Government by Mao Tse-Tung Softcover, University Press of the Pacific, ISBN 0898751802 (0-89875-180-2) viaMao Tse-Tung, Selected Works Vol 1: 1926-1936 by Mao Tse-Tung Softcover, Kessinger Pub Co, ISBN 0548385475 (0-548-38547-5) Mao Zedong and the Political Economy of the Border Region : A Translation of Mao's Economic and Financial Problems by Andrew Watson Hardcover, Cambridge University Press, ISBN 0521225515 (0-521-22551-5) viaOn New Democracy by Mao Tse-tung Softcover, University Press of the Pacific, ISBN 1410205649 (1-4102-0564-9) On Guerrilla Warfare by Mao Tse-Tung, Griffith, Samuel B., II Softcover, University of Illinois Press, ISBN 0252068920 (0-252-06892-0) More editions of On Guerrilla Warfare: On Guerrilla Warfare: Softcover, Dover Publications, Incorporated, ISBN 0486443760 (0-486-44376-0) On Guerrilla Warfare: Softcover, Bnpublishing.Com, ISBN 956310014X (956-310-014-X) On Guerrilla Warfare: Hardcover, Bnpublishing.Com, ISBN 9563100131 (956-310-013-1) On Protracted War by Mao Tse-Tung Softcover, University Press of the Pacific, ISBN 0898751799 (0-89875-179-9) On the People's Democratic Dictatorship by Mao Tse-Tung Softcover, Yale Univ Pr, ISBN 088710052X (0-88710-052-X) The Political Thought of Mao Tse-Tung by Mao Tse-Tung, Stuart R. Schram Hardcover, Greenwood Publishing Group, Incorporated, ISBN 0275670732 (0-275-67073-2) Quotations from Chairman Mao Tsetung by Mao Tsetung, Frederick Ellis Hardcover, Synergy International of The Americas, Limited, ISBN 193456835X (1-934568-35-X) More editions of Quotations from Chairman Mao Tsetung: Quotations from Chairman Mao Tsetung: Softcover, China Books & Periodicals, ISBN 083510284X (0-8351-0284-X) Quotations from Chairman Mao Tse-Tung: Hardcover, Sinolingua, ISBN 083512388X (0-8351-2388-X) Report from Xunwu by Mao Tse-Tung, Roger R. Thompson, Zedong Mao Softcover, Stanford University Press, ISBN 0804721823 (0-8047-2182-3) More editions of Report from Xunwu: Report from Xunwu: Hardcover, Stanford University Press, ISBN 0804716781 (0-8047-1678-1) viaSelected Readings from the Works of Mao Tsetung by Mao Tse-Tung Softcover, University Press of the Pacific, ISBN 0898754917 (0-89875-491-7) Selected Works of Mao Tse-Tung by Mao Tse-Tung Softcover, University Press of the Pacific, ISBN 0898755034 (0-89875-503-4) More editions of Selected Works of Mao Tse-Tung: Selected Works of Mao Tse-tung: The Third Revolutionary War Period: Softcover, University Press of the Pacific, ISBN 0898756979 (0-89875-697-9) Selected Works of Mao Tse-Tung: Hardcover, Beijing, Foreign Languages Press, ISBN 0080222625 (0-08-022262-5) Selected Works of Mao Tse-Tung: Hardcover, Beijing, Foreign Languages Press, ISBN 0080229808 (0-08-022980-8) Selected Works of Mao Tse-Tung: Hardcover, Beijing, Foreign Languages Press, ISBN 0080229824 (0-08-022982-4) Selected Works of Mao Tse-Tung: Hardcover, Beijing, Foreign Languages Press, ISBN 0080229832 (0-08-022983-2) Selected Works of Mao Tse-Tung: Hardcover, Beijing, Foreign Languages Press, ISBN 0080229840 (0-08-022984-0) Selected Works of Mao Tse-Tung; [translated from the Chinese]: Softcover, Harper & Row Limited, ISBN 0060901780 (0-06-090178-0) Selected Works of Mao Tse-Tung: The Period of the War of Resistance Against Japan by Mao Tse-Tung Softcover, University Press of the Pacific, ISBN 0898752345 (0-89875-234-5) Snow Glistens on the Great Wall: The Complete Poetical Works of Mao Tse-Tung by Mao Tse-Tung, Ma Wen-yee, Ma Wen-Yee, Fred Usher Softcover, Atlantic Books, Limited, ISBN 0915520796 (0-915520-79-6) Ten Poems and Lyrics by Mao Tse-tung by Mao Tse-Tung, Wang Hui-Ming Softcover, University of Massachusetts Press, ISBN 0870231820 (0-87023-182-0) More editions of Ten Poems and Lyrics by Mao Tse-tung: Ten Poems and Lyrics by Mao Tse-tung: Hardcover, Nottinghamshire County Council, ISBN 0870231782 (0-87023-178-2) The Wisdom of Mao Tse-Tung by Mao Tse-Tung, The Wisdom Library Softcover, Kensington Publishing Corporation, ISBN 0806523735 (0-8065-2373-5)

[Canadian Outrage]

I most definitely noticed the lizard tongue. It was painfully obvious that this woman is demon possessed. That is a classic sign of demon possession - the continual darting out tongue. It was DIS-gusting!! What’s happening to America is DIS-gusting.

I pray that Americans will DO what they need to do to rid itself of this thugocracy. And I’m not talking about elections - they are clearly crooked now too. A revolution is certainly better than an Obamageddon!! CO

[Niuhuru]

The irony being that if a real Mao were to take over America, these groups would not be tolerate, much less allowed inside the halls of power.

[Niuhuru]

Likely. Much to my regret there are too many gutless wimps who don’t want to step in and risk it all. GW made a lot of hard choices and they spit on him for ‘shaking things up.’

[Niuhuru]

“anger of the peasants at the rich in China is also genuine”

Exactly. The biggest problem with the Chinese government is that it was so isolated and relied on frequently easily manipulated emperors. I mean, concubines were known to get their claws into the emperors and drain the national treasury through demanding expensive gifts. All of them lived in four square miles of a city that cut them off even from the immediate city.

“When the Communist took over, all they had to do is unleash this resevoir of anger. (People in government and Wall Street bankstas should take note, screwing Main Street will have consequences). “

Of course. I can easily see people getting pushed and then every single exec who ripped people off getting dragged out. I don’t know if anyone knows this, but right before Enron there was a similar scandal in China. The guilty ones got either life in prison or executed. That is how these things should be hnadled.

[Talisker]

Look into her eyes. Then listen to that speech to those kids.
These people are PURE EVIL.
They want Americans that disagree with them first silenced, then tracked, and then rounded up, and then, apparantly, lined up and shot--if they are true to their heroes and role models. I truly believe this now.

Yes, yes, yes.

[Talisker]

Look into her eyes. Then listen to that speech to those kids.
These people are PURE EVIL.
They want Americans that disagree with them first silenced, then tracked, and then rounded up, and then, apparantly, lined up and shot--if they are true to their heroes and role models. I truly believe this now.

Yes, yes, yes.

[matt1234]

Many Americans don't know that their countrymen fought and died in the Chinese Civil War. US forces were in China in the late 1940's propping up Chang's nationalist government. Here's an excerpt from my Dad's USMC record:

EMB USS ROI (CVE-103) AT GUAM, M.I. ON 18JAN46 & SAILED THEREFROM;
ARR TAKU, CHINA 25JAN46 & DISEMB 28JAN46
PARTICIPATED IN OCCUPATION TIENTSIN, CHINA.
16JUL47 EMB & SAILED ABOARD USS GEN. ANDERSON FR TSINGTAO, CHINA

That's about 18 months on the Chinese mainland. My Dad said is was basicly a guerrilla war. Semper Fi.

[fulltlt]

Kinda like Timmy Treadwell. Look what happened to him.

[gonzo]

Thanks, sweetie .......................... Smootches