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1 posted on 10/15/2009 8:44:34 AM PDT by steve-b
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We have no leader.....that’s part of the problem.


2 posted on 10/15/2009 8:45:53 AM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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In the nutty world we live in, a request to see the birth certificate is the highest form of insanity.
This reversal of the sane with the insane has been remarkably effective.


3 posted on 10/15/2009 8:47:06 AM PDT by Hans (th)
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I have an idea!

Just keep posting the same article day after day after day after day.

No one will notice.

4 posted on 10/15/2009 8:47:17 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Ask not what the Kennedys can do for you, but what you can do for the Kennedys.)
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It’s a shame when supposedly conservative commentators are indistinguishable from David Brock.


5 posted on 10/15/2009 8:47:31 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEpRBI-VxLc


6 posted on 10/15/2009 8:47:49 AM PDT by tumblindice (His foolish foreign Marxist face)
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I kind of liken the birthers to people accusing Clinton of having oral sex with an intern in the oval office, except she had the dress washed.

A difficult case to prove. Sometimes one must choose their battles.


7 posted on 10/15/2009 8:49:03 AM PDT by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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You can't go around accusing Presidents of not being citizens without some real proof, and that's exactly what you have, a lack of proof.

I sure thought that the burden of proof belonged to the elected President to establish his Natural Born credentials, not that they were automatically assumed and had to be proven false.

But, hey, I'm not a lawyer, so I know what the meaning of "is" is without having to go to court about it.

9 posted on 10/15/2009 8:52:08 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (3%)
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frivolous. well, I've seen enough of Perry Mason and LA Law and Regarding Henry and The Rainmaker to know that there are (very useful) rules of procedure and decorum. And I understand that sometimes umpires throw flags, and even a good player will pay a fine on occasion (though not a great one).

Notwithstanding, how else can a president be compelled to produce a relevant document if not by a court action? And is doing so necessarily "political" or "frivolous?"

And does anybody really trust judges anymore?

10 posted on 10/15/2009 8:52:20 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Fearing for the republic 24/7.)
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Oh yeah.

Let’s set up a moral equivalency to show how the “Birthers” who feel that the constitutional standard of proof has not been met are exactly the same as the “truthers” who think that the President, Vice President and others arranged the murders of thousands of Americans by arranging planes to fly into buidings that had been wired with demolition explosives beforehand.

Nice job all. Even less intellectual rigor than the “so called birthers”.


12 posted on 10/15/2009 8:54:57 AM PDT by rlmorel (Obama, The Flatulence of One Thousand Black Dogs After Eating Boiled Eggs Be Upon Him...)
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“50 years from now I’m sure of 3 things: 1) People will still think there was a conspiracy to kill JFK, 2)People will think there was a conspiracy and Bush was some how involved in 9/11, 3)People will still think Obama was really born in Kenya and not a citizen of the United States.”

The difference is that we’ll be right...he’s an illegal.


14 posted on 10/15/2009 8:56:52 AM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
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To have kept up in this manner for nearly a year after he was elected is just beyond crazy

This guy is supposedly a Right winger? He sounds like the brain damaged Joy Behar.

Soetoro's whole strategy was to hold off the questions until after he got elected, by which time he knew it would be virtually impossible to challenge him.

"You can't sue until you have damages, which means after the election" blah blah, all the convenient little road blocks.

And Taitz is nuts? Ever seen the Doc who says she's seen the BC? If she isn't an Anti-American nut case, dunno who is.

I'm sure she has seen it. I'm also 99% sure she would lie about what she saw to get back at America (she's half Japanese, half native Hawaiian - can you say, "grudge group"?), and also that the Dims got to her and made sure she knew that something will be done for her if she says the right things.

Orly Taitz may not be the right standard bearer, but that doesn't mean she's wrong, just that the so called leadership of the Stupid Party is neutered.

17 posted on 10/15/2009 8:58:36 AM PDT by Regulator (Welcome to Zimbabwe! Now hand over your property....)
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Dr. Taitz is a patriot.

“Article in Nairobi Paper June 2004 - Barack born in Africa
An ongoing poll by AOL News currently shows that 58% of Americans have doubts
about Obama’s citizenship. The poll was started on July 28 and continues — you can go
here to vote. And lest you think that this survey is being conducted in a very anti-Obama
venue, the title of the article is Birthers, Beer and Stuck on ‘Stupidly’ — it is an
environment contemptuous of skeptics. So we can conclude that the results of their poll
are not what they were hoping for.

A scant five years ago, Barack Obama was a little known Illinois state politician, aspiring
to move up to the United States Senate. Undoubtedly, the Marxist handlers behind this
Manchurian candidate had long range plans to capture the US presidency since he was
groomed as a youth by Frank Marshall Davis. But the general public and the press were
not privy to this information.

At that time, there would have been no reason to fabricate a story about Obama’s birth
that would disqualify him for the highest US office. This would be especially true for an
African paper that was simply proud of their native son. So it is reasonable to take the
press clippings of the day at face value. The following item has been on the web all
along, but apparently did not get much attention. It is a June 2004 article from the online
version of the East African Standard, an English-language paper published in Nairobi,
Kenya, titled Kenyan-born Obama all set for US Senate.“


“D.C. Tech Official Is Accused of Bribery(Birth Certificate Forgery)
A D.C. government official and a business executive were arrested yesterday on bribery
charges involving city technology contracts that included "ghost" workers and
kickbacks, federal authorities said. Until recently, the technology office was headed
by Vivek Kundra, who has taken a job as President Obama's chief information officer.
A White House official confirmed last night that Kundra has taken a leave of absence.
“Yusuf Acar, 40, who has worked in the technology office since 2004, was charged with
bribery, conspiracy, money laundering and conflict of interest.
Assistant U.S. Attorney Thomas Hibarger told a federal judge that Acar is a flight risk because agents
seized $70,000 in cash in his house and because in recorded conversations, he boasted that he could easily flee to his native Turkey.
Acar also told the informant that he could use
computers to create fake D.C. birth certificates
, Hibarger said. “

21 posted on 10/15/2009 8:59:39 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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I was skeptical at first, but given how inexplicably secretive the Annointed One is and the cost of the fight to keep all of his records sealed you have to wonder what they are hiding.

The kids I coach have to provide a bc to prove their ages even...

I hope that the other judge allows discovery to proceed.


22 posted on 10/15/2009 9:00:46 AM PDT by monkeypants (It's a Republic, if you can keep it.)
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Here's the thing, basically the first thing they taught us in law school was Rule 11 of the Rules of Civil Procedure. Under Rule 11 lawyers may not engage in frivolous actions, waste the courts time or mis- use legal proceedings simply to annoy people.
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Gee! Yeah! How “annoying”! We the people would like to know if our emperor is indeed a natural born citizen.

32 posted on 10/15/2009 9:11:39 AM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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My my, this turd sounds like one of our daily obamanoid poster apologists for the criminal bastard in the Oval Office: "Hey ... You can't go around accusing Presidents of not being citizens without some real proof, and that's exactly what you have, a lack of proof."

When so called journalists/ACORN fungi demand the search for the truth about a lying bastard sitting in the White House be instantly dropped because the forgeries must be accepted as valid and nothing else will be examined for authenticity, it's a sure bet the fraud the journo worships is starting to sweat.

Barry's kneepad sycophants are even shrugging of the numerous lies told by their obamessiah, as if his continuous lying and deception is nothing to consider as evidence he is a fraud. Echoes of fascist Germany as the Weimar Republic was being rolled up come to mind. Obamascum are making such a stinky floating around Freerepublic ...

'Hunting season' after the criminals destroy the Republic also comes to mind, because no one seems to know how to build the needed guillotine which could shut down the domestic enemedia working so hard to destroy we the people sovereignty via lies and misdirection like this idiot piece heading this thread.

36 posted on 10/15/2009 9:13:27 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Dems, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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A judge has made a ruling and fined a lawyer on an issue he refuses to look into and allow discovery on.

Does this judge think he operates with a crystal ball??


42 posted on 10/15/2009 9:20:16 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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A judge has made a ruling and fined a lawyer on an issue he refuses to look into and allow discovery on.

Does this judge think he operates with a crystal ball??


48 posted on 10/15/2009 9:24:54 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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So because of technicality the she was fined. Talking about misuse of power.

P.S.”don’t quit until you win”....KEEP THE FAITH.


53 posted on 10/15/2009 9:34:17 AM PDT by Lily4Jesus ( Jesus Saves)
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the first thing they taught us in law school was Rule 11 of the Rules of Civil Procedure.

Too bad it wasn't contract law, or more specifically, Constitutional Law.

54 posted on 10/15/2009 9:37:49 AM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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June 27, 2004 Sunday Standard story described Obama as “Kenyan-born”

Sunday Standard [Kenya]

Sunday, June 27, 2004

Kenyan-born Obama all set for US Senate

Kenyan-born US Senate hopeful, Barrack Obama, appeared set to take over the Illinois Senate seat after his main rival, Jack Ryan, dropped out of the race on Friday night amid a furor over lurid sex club allegations.

The allegations that horrified fellow Republicans and caused his once-promising candidacy to implode in four short days have given Obama a clear lead as Republicans struggled to fetch an alternative.

Ryan’s campaign began to crumble on Monday following the release of embarrassing records from his divorce. In the records, his ex-wife, Boston Public actress Jeri Ryan, said her former husband took her to kinky sex clubs in Paris, New York and New Orleans.

Read more at http://web.archive.org/web/20040627142700/eastandard.net/headlines/news26060403.htm

—AP

http://www.aipnews.com/talk/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=8987&posts=2


59 posted on 10/15/2009 10:05:27 AM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (Sarah Palin ...... Sarah Palin ...... Sarah Palin...... Sarah Palin...... You're My Candidate!)
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