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To: cc2k

“...Assemblywoman Dede Scozzafava, who backs abortion rights and has voiced support for gay rights, has drawn a challenger from the right who is running on the Conservative Party line. And though House leaders have urged conference members to donate, many have pointedly refused to back Scozzafava...”

The far right GOP members need to wake up, YOU LIVE IN NEW YORK. Scozzafara is about as good as you can get! Better Scozzafara that a full fledged DemoRat!


9 posted on 10/15/2009 6:04:24 AM PDT by WellyP
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To: WellyP
"Better Scozzafara than a full fledged DemoRat!"

I used to feel the same way but thse days are gone. I'm not going to fall for that reasoning anymore. If every conservative Republican and Democrat votes for the Conservative, he can win. Otherwise, what does it matter?

17 posted on 10/15/2009 6:21:21 AM PDT by Russ (Repeal the 17th amendment)
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To: WellyP

People like you are why we are in the position we are in today in this Nation.

Vote for a liberal, even if s/he DOES have a “R” for political affiliation.

NO MORE LIBERALS!


18 posted on 10/15/2009 6:21:57 AM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: WellyP
The far right GOP members need to wake up, YOU LIVE IN NEW YORK.

That's effectively the same thing that was said about Reagan when he ran for Governor of California in 1964. Here was his response:

We don't intend to turn the Republican Party over to the traitors in the battle just ended. We will have no more of those candidates who are pledged to the same goals of our opposition and who seek our support. Turning the party over to the so-called moderates wouldn't make any sense at all. - Ronald Reagan

21 posted on 10/15/2009 6:27:48 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Schwarzenkaiser, fashionable fascism one charade at a time.)
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To: WellyP
WellyP wrote:
The far right GOP members need to wake up, YOU LIVE IN NEW YORK. Scozzafara is about as good as you can get! Better Scozzafara that a full fledged DemoRat!

I would disagree on your final point. Which is better? Someone who supports cap and trade, supports card check, supports abortion, supports bank bailouts, and is in agreement with their party's position on every one of these issues? Someone who supports cap and trade, supports card check, supports abortion, supports bank bailouts, and opposes their party's position on every one of these issues? The first case is an honest candidate. The second is a dishonest scoundrel.

I realize that agreement on absolutely every issue and ideological purity is out of the question. But the party should run someone who agrees on most of the major issues. If you can’t find a candidate who actually supports most of the Republican platform, don’t bother.

About this district, it is a fairly conservative district (by New York standards). They had a Republican Congressman named John McHugh until September. McHugh had a 71.55% rating from the American Conservative Union.

And my issue with GOP leadership is about taking my support for granted. I support the GOP because I support their platform. In the past, I have given to the RNC and the NRCC and NSCC because I (mistakenly) believed that the money would go to candidates who (mostly) support the principles and positions of the Party. If I wanted to donate to candidates who support abortion, cap and trade, card check, gay rights and bank bailouts, I would give to the DNC and NDCC. The GOP is making a mistake funding a candidate who opposes the party on most major issues.


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cc2k:

25 posted on 10/15/2009 7:05:56 AM PDT by cc2k (Are you better off today than you were $4,000,000,000,000 ago?)
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To: WellyP

Really? They couldn’t find somebody like Pete King? They couldn’t at least contact the leader of the Conservative Party to ask their opinion? Was McHugh a champion of abortion and homosexuality? We don’t need a Susan Collins clone when better people are elecatable.


28 posted on 10/15/2009 7:18:10 AM PDT by MSF BU (++)
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To: WellyP

“The far right GOP members need to wake up, YOU LIVE IN NEW YORK. Scozzafara is about as good as you can get! Better Scozzafara that a full fledged DemoRat!”


I apologize in advance if your post was sarcasm, but I must say that that is one of the dumbest things I’ve ever read anyone post on FR. Dede Scozzafava is adamantly pro-abortion, supports same-sex *marriage*, supports the Obama “stimulus” packages that got exactly 0 votes from House Republicans (not even the RINOs voted for it), is endosed by the ACORN-affiliated Working Families Party and the moonbats at Daily KOS, and is, by all accounts, more liberal than the average House *Democrat*. Perhaps her voting record would be marginally better than the RAT nominee’s, but not enough to make a difference.

But the dumbest thing you said (and, again, I apologize if it was sarcasm) was that an ultraliberal Kossite is “about as good as you can get” in New York. In case you don’t know, the 23rd Congressional district (under its current lines) voted for George W. Bush in both 2000 and 2004, and has been held by a pro-life, pro-marriage, moderate-to-conservative Republican for the past 17 years. It is ridiculous to claim that only a radical leftist such as Scozzafava can win in that district.

Dede Scozzafava would have *never* won a primary for the GOP nomination in the NY-23, but was hand-picked by RINO county hacks because in a NY special House election they don’t have primaries. The NRCCC should have, at a minimum, sat out the race and let the Conservative Party nominee, Doug Hoffman, win the election and caucus with the Republicans in Congress. But the NRCCC chose instead to run negative ads against Hoffman (as they often do against conservatives that are running against RINOs in primaries), which is why I haven’t donated to the NRCCC in several years.


30 posted on 10/15/2009 7:54:58 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he will protect you?)
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To: WellyP; Gilbo_3; hiredhand; Squantos; DoughtyOne; rabscuttle385

“...The far right GOP members need to wake up...”

Uh, No.

There is NO “far-right GOP”. There are Americans, and then there are Liberals. Period. The GOP better wake the hell up and realize what’s happening here.

By running these stupid liberal candidates, they’re aiding and abetting their own eventual destruction by the Dems. The Dems see this as war; the GOP sees it as a game.

If it looks like RINO sh*t, smells like RINO sh*t, and makes noises like a Democrat, you can pretty much bet that it’s RINO sh*t.

I’ll write in my choice if they keep sending up the McCains, Romneys, Grahamnestys, Snowes, Collinses, and the likes of this Dede Scrotumface or whatever the hell her name is.

No more RINOS. Not now, not ever.


38 posted on 10/15/2009 9:07:06 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By any means necessary.)
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