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Ron Paul vs. Lindsey Graham on the Future of the GOP
The Wall Street Journal ^ | 2009-10-14

Posted on 10/14/2009 7:02:43 PM PDT by rabscuttle385

Texas Republican Rep. Ron Paul took to the cable networks today to jab back at South Carolina Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham, who over the weekend said he would not sit back and watch the Texan “hijack” the GOP with his brand of Republicanism.

“My first reaction would be, ‘What does he have against the Constitution?’ And the supporters I have support me because I’m a traditional conservative and I support the Constitution,” Paul told CNN in an interview tonight.

He cited Graham’s support of TARP funds and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and “all the big government things” as examples of why his supporters feel lukewarm about the GOP. “These are the things that constitutional conservatives don’t support,” he said.

. . . . .

Their war of words is emblematic of larger battles brewing within the Republican Party over how best to heal the electoral wounds suffered in 2006 and 2008, rebrand itself, and build a new generation of party leaders.

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections; US: South Carolina; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: gopfuture; lindseygraham; rinowars; ronpaul
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To: NewLand
Neither of these two are appropriate or qualified to address the topic.

Well Lindsey Graham is way to the left of mainstream Republicans and that puts him way, way out in left field in a room full of Conservatives.

Ron Paul is a libertarian and therefor very conservative on freedom and economic issues. I think he is a little short-sighted and even a bit naive when considering the threat that our enemies (primarily Iran and the Taliban) pose to the security of the United States. On the subjects of tax policy, inflation, budgeting, deficits Ron Paul has no equal in either house of Congress or in the Obama Administration. He knows his stuff.

So, if you have to vote, go for Ron Paul. He will cause much less aggravation in the long run than the quasi-Democrat Graham.

21 posted on 10/14/2009 7:39:56 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: Jack Black
Bump.
22 posted on 10/14/2009 7:49:10 PM PDT by altair (Obama Wa Nobel-sho Ni Ataeshinai - Newsweek)
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To: randomhero97
Yeah, it's pretty discouraging. I've been all up and down on these Paul threads for 2 years that he is growing the GOP with new libertarian-minded voters.

Of course, it's easier for these people to laugh at Paul only to curse and complain when his voters stay home or vote 3rd party.

23 posted on 10/14/2009 7:50:07 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (90% of the fedgov is unconstitutional. The other 10% besides the military doesnt know what it's doin)
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To: FreeInWV
It was Bush’s deviations from conservatism (I don’t consider nation-building neocons in the same category as conservatives) that alienated the public against the GOP.

I don't either. I am as against neocons as I am against liberals/progressives. Please give me back my beloved US constitution and leave me alone.

24 posted on 10/14/2009 7:53:26 PM PDT by altair (Obama Wa Nobel-sho Ni Ataeshinai - Newsweek)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

It wasn’t Ron Paul for any of those things. Ron Paul has zero, I repeat, ZERO leadership skills. The majority of conservatives along with independent Americans will not be motivated by this loon.


25 posted on 10/14/2009 8:03:36 PM PDT by NewLand (What does 0bama know and when did he know it?)
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To: org.whodat

26 posted on 10/14/2009 8:05:43 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: InterceptPoint
On the subjects of tax policy, inflation, budgeting, deficits Ron Paul has no equal in either house of Congress or in the Obama Administration. He knows his stuff.

Great. He can be a clerk in the OMB. Fits him perfectly.

27 posted on 10/14/2009 8:05:45 PM PDT by NewLand (What does 0bama know and when did he know it?)
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To: NewLand; All
>Neither of these two are appropriate or qualified to address the topic.

That's just like, your opinion, man.

Rep. Bachmann disagrees:

It's Ron Paul's world, we can only read about it

28 posted on 10/14/2009 8:05:53 PM PDT by Palin Republic (Palin - Bachmann 2012 : Girl Power!)
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To: freedumb2003
1 RINO and 1 LOON-O

:-D

29 posted on 10/14/2009 8:06:49 PM PDT by NewLand (What does 0bama know and when did he know it?)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

What in the name of God is it?


30 posted on 10/14/2009 8:07:45 PM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

“The only flaw with Paul is his 18th century foreign policy views”

exactly


31 posted on 10/14/2009 8:07:57 PM PDT by Revelation 911 (How many 100's of 1000's of our servicemen died so we would never bow to a king?" -freeper pnh102)
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To: Jack Black
I have to agree on your post. Paul is a genius with economic policy, and no he isn't gungho on war, but he would do what he had to do, if he had to do something. He would also build the fence! I would much rather be on Paul's team than the RINO team, any day of the week. He would follow the Constitution to the letter.

Grahamnesty just got finished bashing a whole lot of town hall attendees, and Republicans at that, because he didn't like the answer he got when he asked a woman who she voted for. He is a RINO at BEST! I pray to God SC votes him OUT.

32 posted on 10/14/2009 8:08:13 PM PDT by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Do you get an obamma check, from the stash, with the scrimp. Spelling, is ebonics.
33 posted on 10/14/2009 8:09:08 PM PDT by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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To: NewLand

Sticking to your GOP talking points I see.


34 posted on 10/14/2009 8:09:35 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: Palin Republic
That's just like, your opinion, man.

Exactly. Is that a problem for you?

35 posted on 10/14/2009 8:10:12 PM PDT by NewLand (What does 0bama know and when did he know it?)
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To: o2bfree

If we all had to chose between Ron Paul and Lindsey Graham in a primary election, a clear majority of us would choose Ron Paul.

Graham is not a conservative. In fact when you compare Graham to a conservative senator like DeMint, Graham looks just about like a democrat. If Graham votes to raise energy taxes during the coldest winter in the last decade, then he deserves to caucus with the Democrats.


36 posted on 10/14/2009 8:11:54 PM PDT by o2bfree (This president is giving me a headache!)
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To: NewLand
Great. He can be a clerk in the OMB. Fits him perfectly.

So does Secretary of the Treasury or Chairman of the Federal Reserve. Paul may have his faults but in the areas of Government where we are just getting killed he is the expert. We are over-taxed.The Government is running huge deficits. The National Debt is running out of control and the government wants to pick your doctor for you. It's time to kick out the socialists and put in some adults who will step on the brakes instead of the accelerator. Ron Paul would certainly do that. Maybe not as President. I'll take Sarah Palin for that job. But for financial advice Paul is the guy.

37 posted on 10/14/2009 8:11:54 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: InterceptPoint

Well put. I believe he won’t run again, due to his age, but I sure would like to see him in Treasury or as Economic adviser/Secretary of Finance.


38 posted on 10/14/2009 8:12:09 PM PDT by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: rabscuttle385

39 posted on 10/14/2009 8:12:16 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Darkness has no response to light, except to flee.)
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To: randomhero97
Sticking to your GOP talking points I see.

Nowhere will you find me as a member of the GOP. I'm a conservative capitalist. I vote for people who give me the best opportunity to maintain that within the guidelines of our Constitution. That requires defending our nation as #1 priority and defending ourselves individually as #1a.

I owe my opinions to nobody except me.

You apparently are more interested in controlling a political party, certainly an artifial notion at best, corrupt and statist at worst.

40 posted on 10/14/2009 8:15:38 PM PDT by NewLand (What does 0bama know and when did he know it?)
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