Symbol carved into green at Lakeville golf course

WHDH ^ | October 13, 2009

[myknowledge]

LAKEVILLE, Mass -- Police along with the Secret Service are investigating after a local country club discovered a symbol that represents eastern religious beliefs carved into the green.

Lakeville Country Club workers discovered the vandalism early Monday morning.

Police believe the vandals meant to carve a swastika next to President Barack Obama's name on the 18th hole; however, the symbol was backwards and means hope and peace in some Eastern countries.

The vandals snuck in at night to carve their message, according to the owner of the country club.

[myknowledge]

Carving a swastika into a golf course green and adding Obama's name to it.

That can mean only one thing:

Barack Hussein Obama is a NAZI!!!

[GonzoGOP]

however, the symbol was backwards and means hope and peace in some Eastern countries.

Or that Charles Manson was golfing. Because he was looking in a mirror he carved the swastika into his forehead backwards.

[buffyt]

GOOD LUCK EMBLEM
“The Swastika” is the oldest cross and emblem in the world. It forms a combination of four “L’s” standing for Luck, Light, Love and Life. It has been found in ancient Rome, excavations in Grecian cities, on Buddhist idols, on Chinese coins dated 315 B.C., and our own Southwest Indians use it as an amulet.

It is claimed that the Mound Builders and Cliff Dwellers of Mexico, Central America consider “The Swastika” a charm to drive away evil and bring good luck, long life and prosperity to the possessor

The use of the swastika in domestic ornament was fairly common in the 19th century. I have seen a beautiful white wedding dress, circa 1900, covered all over with embroidered swastikas. It came from the trousseau of a Polish-German immigrant woman, a “mail-order-bride” who was married in the U.S.

The swastika or hackencreuz was not a Nazi symbol originally, but was adopted by them as a “lucky” logo. (Imagine a political party of butchering madmen adopting the four-leaf clover as their symbol!) Some people believe that the swastika has been permanently co-opted or ruined by its brief appropriation by the Nazis — who stood it up diagonally and placed it in a circle rather than running it four-square, and gave it their brand-logo colour scheme of black, white, and red, thus making THEIR swastika a national seal, unlike the non-Nazi swastikas of varied colour and form one finds all around the world.

[bgill]

Of course, makes sense a swastika means peace in the ME.

[buffyt]

The swastika is an extremely powerful symbol. The Nazis used it to murder millions of people, but for centuries it had positive meanings. What is the history of the swastika? Does it now represent good or evil?

The Oldest Known Symbol

The swastika is an ancient symbol that has been used for over 3,000 years. (That even predates the ancient Egyptian symbol, the Ankh!) Artifacts such as pottery and coins from ancient Troy show that the swastika was a commonly used symbol as far back as 1000 BCE.

During the following thousand years, the image of the swastika was used by many cultures around the world, including in China, Japan, India, and southern Europe. By the Middle Ages, the swastika was a well known, if not commonly used, symbol but was called by many different names:

•China - wan
•England - fylfot
•Germany - Hakenkreuz
•Greece - tetraskelion and gammadion
•India - swastika
Though it is not known for exactly how long, Native Americans also have long used the symbol of the swastika.
The Original Meaning

The word “swastika” comes from the Sanskrit svastika - “su” meaning “good,” “asti” meaning “to be,” and “ka” as a suffix.

Until the Nazis used this symbol, the swastika was used by many cultures throughout the past 3,000 years to represent life, sun, power, strength, and good luck.

Even in the early twentieth century, the swastika was still a symbol with positive connotations. For instance, the swastika was a common decoration that often adorned cigarette cases, postcards, coins, and buildings. During World War I, the swastika could even be found on the shoulder patches of the American 45th Division and on the Finnish air force until after What Does the Swastika Mean Now?

There is a great debate as to what the swastika means now. For 3,000 years, the swastika meant life and good luck. But because of the Nazis, it has also taken on a meaning of death and hate.

These conflicting meanings are causing problems in today’s society. For Buddhists and Hindus, the swastika is a very religious symbol that is commonly used. Chirag Badlani shares a story about one time when he went to make some photocopies of some Hindu Gods for his temple. While standing in line to pay for the photocopies, some people behind him in line noticed that one of the pictures had a swastika. They called him a Nazi.

Unfortunately, the Nazis were so effective at their use of the swastika emblem, that many do not even know any other meaning for the swastika. Can there be two completely opposite meanings for one symbol?

In ancient times, the direction of the swastika was interchangeable as can be seen on an ancient Chinese silk drawing.

Some cultures in the past had differentiated between the clockwise swastika and the counter-clockwise sauvastika. In these cultures the swastika symbolized health and life while the sauvastika took on a mystical meaning of bad-luck or misfortune.

But since the Nazis use of the swastika, some people are trying to differentiate the two meanings of the swastika by varying its direction - trying to make the clockwise, Nazi version of the swastika mean hate and death while the counter-clockwise version would hold the ancient meaning of the symbol, life and good-luck.

[ClearCase_guy]

People recognize that Obama is a fascist. They may not know enough to form a swastika correctly, but they know tyrannical government when they see it.

[bgill]

It forms a combination of four “L’s” standing for Luck, Light, Love and Life. It has been found in ancient Rome, excavations in Grecian cities, on Buddhist idols, on Chinese coins dated 315 B.C., and our own Southwest Indians use it as an amulet.

Hey, kewl! Who knew the ancient Romans, Chinese, and Indians spoke English.....

[Bloody Sam Roberts]

The word “swastika” comes from the Sanskrit svastika - “su” meaning “good,” “asti” meaning “to be,” and “ka” as a suffix.

"It's good to be the King."

[myknowledge]

It means Nazism.

Ancient Occult Symbol

[woollyone]

"...is the oldest cross and emblem in the world. It forms a combination of four “L’s” standing for Luck, Light, Love and Life. It has been found in ancient Rome, excavations in Grecian cities, on Buddhist idols, on Chinese coins dated 315 B.C., and our own Southwest Indians use it as an amulet"

So, being the skeptic, and having a vague recollection of Gk...I hit the translator to check the "four "L" notion.

Here are the four "L" words, in Greek....
τύχη
Φως
αγάπη
Ζωή

...none of which begin with the lambda, or "L"

I call BS on the "good luck emblem" thory.
Nothing personal, mind you.

[myknowledge]

Swastika

[myknowledge]

[popdonnelly]

Or it could mean that the guys who did it are morons.

[myknowledge]

Possible, or sending a message that Obama is a neo-Nazi. (he really is a neo-Nazi)

[Balata]

...while the counter-clockwise version would hold the ancient meaning of the symbol, life and good-luck.

The counter-clockwise version is also an American Indian symbol.

[kbennkc]

Obama the golfing , buddist , kenyon .

[rjsimmon]

I have no idea where you get this from, but it is incorrect. The "SS" stand for "Schutzstaffel" meaning "Protective Echelon" made of the runes "Sigel" from the Armanen rune for "Sun" which was reduced to "Sig" which means "Victory", an allusion to the German "Sieg".

The "SS" was designed by Walter Heck, a Sturmführer in the SS in 1931.

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

Ok, which is right and which is wrong?

[dangus]

>> “The Swastika” is the oldest cross and emblem in the world. It forms a combination of four “L’s” standing for Luck, Light, Love and Life. <<

Since all those words are fairly modern, you can’t be correct. The swaztika is old; it does not stand for four Ls.

[rsquare]

I believe the earliest shoulder patch of the 45th Infantry Division was a swastika, which was later replaced by the now famous Thunderbird design.