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Live Thread for Senate Finance Committee Vote on [Baucus version of] ObamaCare
CSPAN-3 ^ | 10/13/09 | Freepers

Posted on 10/13/2009 9:38:48 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty

Thread for the Debate/Vote in Senate Finance Committee. Please post contact info here. If your Senator is on this committee, let him/her know how you feel!

CSPAN was covering it until moments before I posted this, but CSPAN 3 is supposed to be streaming it later. Link is to C-3 stream.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government
KEYWORDS: 111th; baucus; bhohealthcare
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To: clintonh8r

If it’s unconstitutional then it should be fought in the courts if it passes.


41 posted on 10/13/2009 10:07:13 AM PDT by jerri (Is it over yet?)
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To: Tailback

of that group only snowe would crack.
mccain is up fro relection and graham lobby funds are from insurance groups.


42 posted on 10/13/2009 10:08:19 AM PDT by ncalburt (San Fran Nan , Your Harvey Milk was gunned down by a fellow Dem-RAT)
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To: Cyber Liberty

Snowe is not up for re-election until 2014. Everyone can chill.

This bill will never see the Senate floor.

What will come to the floor will be much worse than Baucus. Snowe will have a chance to backpeddle then. No Republican will support a worse bill, Lieberman won’t either.


43 posted on 10/13/2009 10:08:26 AM PDT by mwl8787
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To: gathersnomoss

It might well be. Technically speaking, the whole bill is unconstitutional. Technically speaking SCOTUS ought to throw it right out the door. They can’t do that till it passes however. You see, they DO have the power of Judicial Review.

This fight is no where near over. I am not giving up yet. We have to hold out until May. Once the Primaries are over, no incumbent will touch this stuff with a 50 foot pole. Thats why they are trying to force it through ASAP.


44 posted on 10/13/2009 10:08:35 AM PDT by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: popdonnelly

...”get off their butts and do something”

Sorry, no need to. The deals are done. Pack it in.

Now, you say you want a Revolution!!!

It is go time!


45 posted on 10/13/2009 10:09:44 AM PDT by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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To: mwl8787

I agree with you, for the most part. There is plenty of time for this to get really bad, and therefore killed either on the floor or in Reconcile.


46 posted on 10/13/2009 10:09:57 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Ram "Health Care Reform" down our throats in '09, and we'll ram it up your @ss in '10.)
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To: conservativebuckeye

So, is this RINO bitch up for election in year 2010 or in five years like Graham?


47 posted on 10/13/2009 10:10:52 AM PDT by Bronzy
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To: mwl8787

“Snowe is not up for re-election until 2014.”

Who does that help? Snowe might as well be a Democrat.


48 posted on 10/13/2009 10:11:30 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Yes, we disagree - no, we won't shut up - no, we won't quit.)
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To: jerri

you missed the point


49 posted on 10/13/2009 10:12:33 AM PDT by clintonh8r (Love my country. Hate my government./Barack Obama: An authentic "African American.")
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To: Danae

You know, I shouldn’t have to worry about this stuff while I am making a living. These tyrants are elected and then do a 180, taking the Constitution along with them to the out house.

This Must Stop. Why do we have to watch these slimy politicians 24 HOURS A DAY?!!!!! These LIARS swore on a Bible, and then turn away forsaking there promises and OBLIGATIONS.

Enough IS Enough!

It is time to stop this NOW!


50 posted on 10/13/2009 10:16:22 AM PDT by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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To: Danae
We have to hold out until May.

Maybe only another three weeks - if we take Virginia AND New Jersey, everyone will be scampering away from Obama just as fast as their little rat paws will carry them.

51 posted on 10/13/2009 10:17:56 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: Admin Moderator; Sidebar Moderator

Oh, I just noticed! Thanks!


52 posted on 10/13/2009 10:19:20 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Ram "Health Care Reform" down our throats in '09, and we'll ram it up your @ss in '10.)
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To: FreeAtlanta

Vote the bastids out!


53 posted on 10/13/2009 10:20:45 AM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

D.C. numbers for Traitor Snowe:

Phone: (202) 224-5344
Toll Free: (800) 432-1599
Fax: (202) 224-1946

They’re busy but keep trying!


54 posted on 10/13/2009 10:22:58 AM PDT by mplsconservative
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To: popdonnelly

she needs to be stripped aof any committee positon and the commitee head seat she wants.
Mcconnel needs to strip her of everything .

call him and demand it.


55 posted on 10/13/2009 10:25:58 AM PDT by ncalburt (San Fran Nan , Your Harvey Milk was gunned down by a fellow Dem-RAT)
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To: Cyber Liberty

How can they vote on something that does not exist? Is this the way all bills will be voted on from now on? Vote first then write the bill later? We need to do something pronto about these power grabs by the liberals.


56 posted on 10/13/2009 10:34:35 AM PDT by calex59
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To: Cyber Liberty
I'm not sure if CSPAN 3 has stayed this hearing. I see something else there now. If you want to watch the Finance committee, they have a direct, live feed. Watch at http://finance.senate.gov/sitepages/flash_live.htm.
From the desk of
cc2k:

57 posted on 10/13/2009 10:35:30 AM PDT by cc2k (Are you better off today than you were $4,000,000,000,000 ago?)
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To: RWGinger

Whatever bill they end up with will be an afterbirth and ostammer will sign it. It won’t go into effect until 2013. Between now and the 2010 election, they will spend every moment telling America how wonderful it is so they can hang onto their leadership positions. It’s going to take a gargantuan effort to undo this and, even if we took back both the House and Senate, it would take superior political craftsmanship to get ostammer to sign off on any provisions. Pubs simply do not have superior political craftsmanship. In addition, they’re jellyfish. Invertebrates absolutely lack what it takes to play hardball. The real over haul will only occur in 2013 if we can get this Marxist out of the WH.


58 posted on 10/13/2009 10:37:40 AM PDT by bustinchops (Teddy ("The Hiccup") Kennedy - the original water-boarder)
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To: cc2k

Thanks! CSPAN has been sporadic with their coverage.


59 posted on 10/13/2009 10:39:17 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Ram "Health Care Reform" down our throats in '09, and we'll ram it up your @ss in '10.)
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To: calex59
How can they vote on something that does not exist?

I must admit I don't know enough about this, but I guess a bill can be as vague as the congresscritters want it to be, but has to have detail at final vote. I don't think we'll get to see the detailed bill until it is too late, because a House version (Bill 3200) got shot to pieces when it was posted on the internet. The Dems can't risk a repeat of that, so we get vague.

60 posted on 10/13/2009 10:43:39 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Ram "Health Care Reform" down our throats in '09, and we'll ram it up your @ss in '10.)
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