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Sidekick Users See Their Data Vanish Into a Cloud
Washington Post ^ | October 13, 2009 | Rob Pegoraro

Posted on 10/13/2009 1:49:30 AM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld

A server meltdown over the weekend wiped out the master copies of personal data -- including address books, calendars, to-do lists and photos -- accumulated by users of T-Mobile's formerly popular Sidekick smartphone.

This computing calamity allows Sidekick owners only a faint hope of backing up the information currently on their devices, and none of recovering anything they'd trusted to online storage. And it leaves T-Mobile and the operator of the Sidekick's data service, a Microsoft subsidiary formerly known as Danger Inc. -- oh, the irony! -- with serious explaining to do.

A statement on T-Mobile's site phrased things a little more bluntly than the average exercise in corporate contrition: "we must now inform you that personal information stored on your device -- such as contacts, calendar entries, to-do lists or photos -- that is no longer on your Sidekick almost certainly has been lost as a result of a server failure at Microsoft/Danger."

The statement went on to instruct Sidekick users with data surviving on their phones to avoid "removing the battery or letting their battery drain completely, as any personal content that currently resides on your device will be lost." (An update Monday night expressed a little more optimism: "Recent efforts indicate the prospects of recovering some lost content may now be possible.") A frequently-asked-questions file contains a handful of suggestions, such as copying a Sidekick's contacts list to its SIM card, while a third-party site outlines a laborious process by which you can e-mail your contacts list and notes to your computer, one person and one file at a time.

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T-Mobile ticked off a lot of users with losing customers data.
1 posted on 10/13/2009 1:49:30 AM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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2 posted on 10/13/2009 1:50:58 AM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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T-Mobile will have hell to pay for this. I think that they better come off with a miracle and find customers lost data. Thank God I am not with them.


3 posted on 10/13/2009 1:52:56 AM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("We will either find a way, or make one."Hannibal/Carthaginian Military Commander)
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To: sonofstrangelove

Luuucy!!! You gots some splainin’ to dooooooo.....


4 posted on 10/13/2009 1:56:12 AM PDT by Ronin (Nemo me impune lacesset)
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To: Ronin

Tons of splainin to dooooooooo


5 posted on 10/13/2009 1:57:11 AM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("We will either find a way, or make one."Hannibal/Carthaginian Military Commander)
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To: sonofstrangelove

Heard on the radio news this morning that they were going to send the people who lost all their data twenty bucks.

Man, I would be pissed, but I know that one day the very same thing may happen to my iPhone.


6 posted on 10/13/2009 1:58:27 AM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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That would be far more difficult as your iPhone’s data is stored on your computer multiple times. And you back up your computer frequently... right?

Right?


7 posted on 10/13/2009 2:31:27 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

Of course.


8 posted on 10/13/2009 2:51:28 AM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: sonofstrangelove

oops


9 posted on 10/13/2009 3:04:04 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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Well, then you’re smarter than Microsoft, which had no backups.


10 posted on 10/13/2009 3:11:48 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Doogle

T-Mobile can pound sand. My son got a phone and contract from them about 5 years ago. The phone stopped working after three weeks. They replaced the phone then tried to charge him for it on the next bill. The bill also had about $150 of phone charges on it. I told the company we would pay the charges but not for the phone since we were told it was a free replacement. They said they would not take partial payment. We still get occasional calls from collection agencies about this bill, usually offering a 50% reduction in the bill. Every time, I tell them we will pay for the phone charges, but not the phone (which is actually less than 50% of the bill), but they have to take the mark off his credit report. They refuse to do that so I just tell them they ain’t getting anything then and just laugh at them.


11 posted on 10/13/2009 3:15:15 AM PDT by AUH2O Repub (Palin/Hunter 2012)
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To: sonofstrangelove

Maybe I missed something, but how can you can possibly lose ALL the data ... unless someone ran through the data center with a giant electromagnet ... and even then, weren’t there occasional backups to optical? Off-site?

They do know it’s not literally a cloud that stores data, right?

:)


12 posted on 10/13/2009 3:25:56 AM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: sonofstrangelove

In this day and age, it is unthinkable to not have redundant back ups.

This is and epic fail, just like 0bama’s bid for the Olympics.


13 posted on 10/13/2009 3:35:11 AM PDT by CriticalJ
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They do know it’s not literally a cloud that stores data, right?

Maybe they thought it would if it looked like a data center.

Oooh, and there's one that looks like Bill Gates!
14 posted on 10/13/2009 3:36:38 AM PDT by BikerJoe
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To: sonofstrangelove; rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; Salo; Bobsat; ...

From another list I'm on:

They were doing an upgrade on their Hitachi SAN. In preparation for this upgrade, they were performing a backup, but it was 2 days into a 6 day backup procedure (it's a *lot* of data). Someone from MS (Roz Ho, http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/exec/rozho/) told them to stop the backup procedure and proceed with the upgrade after assurances from Hitachi that a backup wasn't necessary. This was done against the objections of Danger engineers.

Now, they had a backup from a couple of months ago, but they only had the SAN space for a single backup. Because they started a new backup, they had to remove the old one. If they hadn't done a backup at all, they'd still have the previous backup to fall back on.

Anyway, after the SAN upgrade, disks started "disappearing". Logically, Oracle freaked out and started trying to recover, which just made the damage worse. I'm a little fuzzy on the details here, however.

At this point, they're considering it a lost cause.


15 posted on 10/13/2009 4:57:24 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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At this point, they're considering it a lost cause.

Aren't these people supposed to be among the best in the business? And they OK major upgrades without backing up properly?

And they all want users to migrate to the cloud???

16 posted on 10/13/2009 5:00:44 AM PDT by paulycy (Screw the RACErs)
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Aren't these people supposed to be among the best in the business?

You'd like to think so, wouldn't you? It's been my experience that they are no better than anyone else. I'd have fought tooth and nail to make that backup--especially since I'd have already erased the previous one.

What's another four days, anyway?

17 posted on 10/13/2009 5:20:29 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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especially since I'd have already erased the previous one. What's another four days, anyway?

Exactly.

BREAKING NEWS: Meet the new 0bamacare IT team....

18 posted on 10/13/2009 5:22:08 AM PDT by paulycy (Why pay HIGHER TAXES for WORSE healthcare?)
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To: sonofstrangelove

No backups?

Folks, don’t trust anyone else to keep your data. It’s YOUR responsibility


19 posted on 10/13/2009 5:25:33 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: ShadowAce

Hi! I’m from Microsoft and I’m here to help you.


20 posted on 10/13/2009 5:51:24 AM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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