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1 posted on 10/08/2009 3:35:40 PM PDT by NYer
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2 posted on 10/08/2009 3:36:37 PM PDT by NYer ( "One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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3 posted on 10/08/2009 3:36:56 PM PDT by NYer ( "One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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Not the least of which it is unconstitutional.

Your health records in the government’s hands to do with as they want ... Did someone remove the 4th amendment when I wasn’t looking? It takes a court order, probable cause and a court proceeding now to get your health records. Remember the Limbaugh fight?


4 posted on 10/08/2009 3:38:01 PM PDT by Tarpon (Oba-Mao is a reader, not a leader ...)
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“The final measure the bishops pushed for was that legislation should include “effective measures to safeguard the health of immigrants, their children and all of society.” They also asserted that the bill should “ensure legal immigrants and their family members have comprehensive, affordable, and timely access to health care coverage.””

The first push in legalizing the illegals? If my interpretation is correct then I’m for aborting the Bishops. If not then more power to them.


5 posted on 10/08/2009 3:40:18 PM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (We are an Oligarchy)
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The good fathers are neo-cons and liberals.

Support the entire Republican program on health care.

KILL THE BILL!!!


6 posted on 10/08/2009 3:40:26 PM PDT by Candor7 (The effective weapons against Fascism are ridicule, derision, and truth (Member NRA)
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bttt


7 posted on 10/08/2009 3:40:58 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Mammalia Primatia Hominidae Homo sapiens. Still working on the "sapiens" part.)
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“make care affordable for everyone and ensure that immigrants have access to the health system”

Leftist, why doesn’t he use the church’s money to pay for all of this?


9 posted on 10/08/2009 3:43:53 PM PDT by stockpirate ("And if my thought-dreams could be seen. They'd probably put my head in a guillotine)
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Right - what about the Cardinal who did the funeral mass for Teddy Kennedy? I’m SURE he’ll protest the bill....(not!)


10 posted on 10/08/2009 3:44:49 PM PDT by phoenix07
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Free medical for illegals? Let the Pope pay for it.


13 posted on 10/08/2009 3:49:36 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (ALSO SPRACH ZEROTHUSTRA)
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The bishops warned Congress that if the final legislation “does not meet our principles, we will have no choice but to oppose the bill.”

I HATE the "no choice but to ..." rhetoric. Hey, your excellencies! Grow a pair and speak clearly, as in: We think a bill which does not meet these criteria is wrong and we will oppose it."

Further, I LOATHE the use of "immigrant" without the clarification of whether we're talking about legal or illegal.

Other than that, good for them!

14 posted on 10/08/2009 3:52:55 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin: pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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Gee thanks bishops.

GTH!


15 posted on 10/08/2009 3:55:46 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (Will America's worst Pre-sent in history be our last?)
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Funny how the Bishops have no problem with stealing for others to do their good deeds...

THOU SHALT NOT STEAL!


17 posted on 10/08/2009 4:05:13 PM PDT by DB
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Here is what the Catechism of the Catholic Church has to say on immigration in general:

2241 The more prosperous nations are obliged, to the extent they are able, to welcome the foreigner in search of the security and the means of livelihood which he cannot find in his country of origin. Public authorities should see to it that the natural right is respected that places a guest under the protection of those who receive him.

Political authorities, for the sake of the common good for which they are responsible, may make the exercise of the right to immigrate subject to various juridical conditions, especially with regard to the immigrants' duties toward their country of adoption. Immigrants are obliged to respect with gratitude the material and spiritual heritage of the country that receives them, to obey its laws and to assist in carrying civic burdens.

There is more at this link.
18 posted on 10/08/2009 4:10:20 PM PDT by mlizzy ("It is impossible to walk rapidly and be unhappy" --Mother Teresa of Calcutta.)
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There are many wonderful and committed Catholic priests, nuns, brothers, etc.

Few good ones, however, make it to being a bishop.


20 posted on 10/08/2009 4:13:44 PM PDT by OldNavyVet
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If the Church is so concerned about immigrants then let the Church pay their bills.
24 posted on 10/08/2009 4:47:22 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Romak 7.62X54MM, AK47 7.62X39MM, LARGO 9X23MM, HAPINESS IS A WARM GUN BANG BANG YEA YEA)
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It's good to see more Bishops coming out against this health care issue.

BREAKING: Catholic Bishops On Health Care - Change Bills Or Else
U.S. bishops warn of vigorous opposition if Congress fails to fix health care bills
List: *41* Bishops against Obamacare (and counting!)
Bishop Murphy Issues Video Statement on Health Care Reform [Diocese of Rockville Centre]

Health Care Principles [Bishop Samuel Aquila, Fargo, ND]
Florida Bishop [Thomas Wenski] Weighs in on Health Care Reform
ObamaCare and Catholic social teaching [Bishop Neckless]
Some Catholic bishops question gov't health care
Boston’s Roman Catholic Cardinal Says He Confronted Obama about Abortion in Health Care Plan....

Iowa Bishop: Don’t Be Railroaded into the Current...Health Care Proposals
in a message issued by the Diocese of Sioux City (The Church on Universal Healthcare)
Nazi Health Care A Catholic Bishop Speaks Out Against "End of Life Care" (Germany, 1941)
Bishop Nickless: "No Health Care Reform is Better than the Wrong Health Care Reform"
Cardinal Rigali, Abp. Chaput Intensify Warnings Against Obamacare's Abortion Expansion

25 posted on 10/08/2009 9:20:00 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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