Posted on 10/06/2009 5:53:46 AM PDT by decimon
Needed: A 'clean line' to determine lawfulness
"You don't need to know. You can't know." That's what Kathy Norris, a 60-year-old grandmother of eight, was told when she tried to ask court officials why, the day before, federal agents had subjected her home to a furious search.
The agents who spent half a day ransacking Mrs. Norris' longtime home in Spring, Texas, answered no questions while they emptied file cabinets, pulled books off shelves, rifled through drawers and closets, and threw the contents on the floor.
The six agents, wearing SWAT gear and carrying weapons, were with - get this- the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service.
Kathy and George Norris lived under the specter of a covert government investigation for almost six months before the government unsealed a secret indictment and revealed why the Fish and Wildlife Service had treated their family home as if it were a training base for suspected terrorists. Orchids.
That's right. Orchids.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...
I heard of a case where this happened to a retired couple who stocked their pond with the wrong kinds of fish, too. These guys seem to LOVE scare tactics.
If the US ever decides it needs a corps of jack-booted thugs, the Fish and Wildlife cops are very well set up to play the role. fh
>before the government unsealed a secret indictment
Star Court anyone?
Excellent typo. Excellent.
like I said before, when States start locking up Federal Agents that cannot demonstrate the written word of the US Constitution authorizes their function. Only then will we begin the long journey to Freedom. it is cases like this that the 2nd Amendment was written for, Should the Governor call forth the Militia to suppress the Federal Usurpers of States Rights??
What would John Wayne do?
Star Court anyone?
"You don't need to know. You can't know."
Over Orchids! We have become a Police State.
It wasn’t intentional, but it kind of works, huh?
AFAIK that is the way it is supposed to work. Of course that may just have been the way it was before the Supremos stated hallucinating penumbras and such.
SImply must read the entire article. How many of us might very well be made criminals because of vague and over-reaching laws?
This started in 2004. Can’t even blame Zer0! It is this kind of abuse that GWB and his administration should have sought to curtail. This is the kind of abuse of rights that is an outrage, but the left only cares (and most of the media only scream) when it is enemies of America who must face penalties.
"Flower Power" just don't mean what it used to.
I think it does, sir. I do. I think it does.
Where do these guys get the authority to detain and search Federally Documented Vessels in navigable waters? Are they in violation of Coast Guard Regulations by operating a vessel for compensation with out a Masters License? It apears that they are above the laws.
The Fourth Amendment was abrogated by the Drug War decades ago. To cheers and huzzahs from the crowd. So now the tactics are applied everywhere. So it goes.
Two words every American must know and understand:
Jury Nullification
Please explain. I am not legally savvy.
“Did you really think that we want those laws to be observed? We want them broken. You’d better get it straight that it’s not a bunch of boy scouts you’re up against . . . We’re after power and we mean it. You fellows were pikers, but we know the real trick, and you’d better get wise to it. There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What’s there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced nor objectively interpreted - and you create a nation of law-breakers - and then you cash in on guilt. Now that’s the system, Mr. Rearden, and once you understand it, you’ll be much easier to deal with.”
Atlas Shrugged
Read the full article:
“The Norrises’ nightmare began with the search in October 2003. It didn’t end until Mr. Norris was released from federal supervision in December 2008. His wife testified, however, that even after he came home, the man she had married was still gone. He was by then 71 years old. Unsurprisingly, serving two years as a federal convict - in addition to the years it took to defend unsuccessfully against the charges - had taken a severe toll on him mentally, emotionally and physically.”
During the GW Bush years. You remember those? The same time frame that Border Patrol agents Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean were prosecuted, convicted and jailed for doing their jobs. That justice department witheld exculpatory information during their trial, just as the dangerous orchid growers did not receive their procedural right . . .
Well, procedural options, or whimseys.
There is a continuity from the New World Order to the Citizen of the World. Only fools would deny it, but there are a hell of a lot of fools who believe in empty suits and empty parties.
The United States has been misgoverned for 20 years, with at least 4 more to go.
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