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U.S. Military Advisors Told To Keep Remarks Private ["Disarray" in Obama Administration!]
LATimes ^ | October 05th 2009

Posted on 10/05/2009 8:53:40 PM PDT by Steelfish

U.S. Military Advisors Told To Keep Remarks Private

Comments by Defense Secretary Robert Gates seem aimed at Gen. Stanley McChrystal, who has been speaking out about the need for more troops in Afghanistan.

By Christi Parsons October 5, 2009

Reporting from Washington - Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates said Monday that President Obama's advisors should keep their guidance private, in effect admonishing the top U.S. and allied commander in Afghanistan for publicly advocating a troop-intensive military approach at a time when the White House is considering an overhaul of its strategy.

The comment by Gates came a day after a top White House official, national security advisor James Jones, said military commanders should convey their advice through the chain of command, a sharp reaction to Gen. Stanley A. McChrystal's call in a speech in London last week for a strategy aimed at stabilizing Afghanistan.

The exchanges suggested a certain disarray in the Obama administration attempt to forge a new policy on Afghanistan and underscored the wide differences among top officials over the correct approach after eight years of failed efforts.

The controversy centered on McChrystal, a special forces commander tapped by Obama to take charge of the Afghanistan effort in June to institute a sweeping counterinsurgency strategy. Obama and McChrystal spoke Friday aboard Air Force One on an airport tarmac in Copenhagen, and White House officials did not detail what the two talked about.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bho44; bhodod; healthcare; mcchrystal; military; nationalsecurityfail; nsp; nss; obama; veterans
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To: Candor7

Men like Smedley Butler, Curtis Lemay and Chesty Puller wouldn’t put up with an Administration dallying while troops were in the field fighting. They’d be fired or resign.


61 posted on 10/06/2009 7:08:56 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: nathanbedford

You are right on with your post!


62 posted on 10/06/2009 7:30:06 AM PDT by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: SkyPilot

Pathetic punks!


63 posted on 10/06/2009 7:41:35 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: Steelfish

64 posted on 10/06/2009 8:01:43 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Jimmy Carter - now the second worst POTUS ever. BHO [the LIAR] has #1 spot in his sights.)
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To: Lumper20

Yes. These are General McChystal’s ROE.


65 posted on 10/06/2009 8:27:50 AM PDT by MestaMachine (One if by land, 2 if by sea, 3 if by Air Force 1.)
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To: Lumper20

Repost:
McChrystal Tactical Directive
(Portions of the full directive HAVE NOT BEEN RELEASED.)

http://www.nato.int/isaf/docu/official_texts/Tactical_Directive_090706.pdf

Our strategic goal is to defeat the insurgency threatening the stability of Afghanistan. Like any insurgency, there is a struggle for the support and will of the population. Gaining and maintaining that support must be our overriding operational imperative - and the ultimate objective of every action we take.

We must fight the insurgents, and will use the tools at our disposal to both defeat the enemy and protect our forces. But we will not win based on the number of Taliban we kill, but instead on our ability to separate insurgents from the center of gravity - the people. That means we must respect and protect the population from coercion and violence - and operate in a manner which will win their support.

This is different from conventional combat, and how we operate will determine the outcome more than traditional measures, like capture of terrain or attrition of enemy forces. We must avoid the trap of winning tactical victories - but suffering strategic defeats - by causing civilian casualties or excessive damage and thus alienating the people.

While this is also a legal and a moral issue, it is an overarching operational issue - clear-eyed recognition that loss of popular support will be decisive to either side in this struggle. The Taliban cannot militarily defeat us - but we can defeat ourselves.

I recognize that the carefully controlled and disciplined employment of force entails risks to our troops - and we must work to mitigate that risk wherever possible. But excessive use of force resulting in an alienated population will produce far greater risks. We must understand this reality at every level in our force.

I expect leaders at all levels to scrutinize and limit the use of force like close air support (CAS) against residential compounds and other locations likely to produce civilian casualties in accordance with this guidance. Commanders must weigh the gain of using CAS against the cost of civilian casualties, which in the long run make mission success more difficult and turn the Afghan people against us.

I cannot prescribe the appropriate use of force for every condition that a complex battlefield will produce, so I expect our force to internalize and operate in accordance with my intent. Following this intent requires a cultural shift within our forces - and complete understanding at every level - down to the most junior soldiers. I expect leaders to ensure this is clearly communicated and continually reinforced.

We will not isolate the population from us through our daily conduct or execution of combat operations. Therefore:

Any entry into an Afghan house should always be accomplished by Afghan National Security Forces (ANSF), with the support of local authorities, and account for the unique cultural sensitivities toward local women.

No ISAF forces will enter or fire upon, or fire into a mosque or any religious or historical site except in self-defense. All searches and entries for any other reason will be conducted by ANSF.

The challenges in Afghanistan are complex and interrelated, and counterinsurgencies are difficult to win. Nevertheless, we will win this war. I have every confidence in the dedication and competence of the members of our force to operate effectively within this challenging environment. Working together with our Afghan partners, we can overcome the enemy’s influence and give the Afghan people what they deserve: a country at peace for the first time in three decades, foundations of good governance, and economic development.
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*Note: Civilians in the areas that have been in the news recently are grumbling hard about these new rules. I will provide links and quotes as soon as I locate them again.
They don’t like them any more than our Troops do.


66 posted on 10/06/2009 8:38:07 AM PDT by MestaMachine (One if by land, 2 if by sea, 3 if by Air Force 1.)
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To: MestaMachine; SkyPilot; panthermom
http://www.nato.int/isaf/docu/official_texts/Tactical_Directive_090706.pdf

"...I recognize that the carefully controlled and disciplined employment of force entails risks to our troops..."

Nicely written by some paper pushing Pentagon arm chairer most likely.

"...The Taliban cannot militarily defeat us - but we can defeat ourselves..."

WT.......!!!!!

"We are pinned down. We are running low on ammo. We have no air. We've lost today," Marine Maj. Kevin Williams, 37, said through his translator to his Afghan counterpart, responding to the latter's repeated demands for helicopters.

"'We're pinned down:' 4 U.S. Marines die in Afghan ambush"

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2335142/posts

67 posted on 10/06/2009 8:59:15 AM PDT by 444Flyer ("Every society honors its live conformists and its dead troublemakers."--Mignon McLaughlin)
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To: 444Flyer

From the same article:

Several U.S. officers said they suspected that the insurgents had been tipped off by sympathizers in the local Afghan security forces or by the village elders, who announced over the weekend that they were accepting the authority of the local government.

“Whatever we do always leaks,” said Marine Lt. Ademola Fabayo, 28, a New Yorker who was born in Nigeria and is the operations officer for the trainers from the 3rd Marine Division. “You can’t trust even some of their soldiers or officers.”
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I repeat, they suspected that the insurgents had been tipped off by sympathizers in the local Afghan security forces or by the village elders...

The same “civilians” and the “loyal” Afghan Army McChrystal wants to “protect” and build.
Right.


68 posted on 10/06/2009 10:36:40 AM PDT by MestaMachine (One if by land, 2 if by sea, 3 if by Air Force 1.)
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To: Lumper20

I don’t think I could describe the up and coming General Officers under Obama and Gen. Biden than you have!


69 posted on 10/06/2009 10:37:42 AM PDT by ImpBill ("America ... where are you now?" signed, a little "r" republican!)
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To: Jet Jaguar
The National Security Strategy under GWB

Thanks for posting that, worth saving.

70 posted on 10/08/2009 2:15:04 AM PDT by 4woodenboats (Facts are like fried eggs - just give 'em to me hot off the griddle, I'll add my own dang salt .)
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To: Steelfish

Obamas two new generals are Major Chaos and General Disorder.


71 posted on 10/26/2009 7:16:51 PM PDT by JoeMac ("Dats all I can stands 'cuz I can't stands no more!'' Popeye The SailorMan)
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To: Steelfish

Obamas two new generals are Major Chaos and General Disorder.


72 posted on 10/26/2009 7:17:42 PM PDT by JoeMac ("Dats all I can stands 'cuz I can't stands no more!'' Popeye The SailorMan)
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To: Steelfish

Obamas two new generals are Major Chaos and General Disorder.


73 posted on 10/26/2009 7:18:05 PM PDT by JoeMac ("Dats all I can stands 'cuz I can't stands no more!'' Popeye The SailorMan)
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