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High court to decide if war memorial (Cross) violates Constitution
CNN ^ | October 5th, 2009

Posted on 10/05/2009 10:48:01 AM PDT by TaraP

A, California -- Driving along a pockmarked road amid rocks and Joshua trees in a lonely southern California desert, religious controversy might be the last thing you'd expect to encounter.

And if you don't look too closely, you're likely to zip right past the focus of a hotly contested Supreme Court battle.

A federal judge has ordered the Mojave Cross, a war memorial erected by a veterans group 75 years ago, to be covered. It's boxed in plywood.

The issue is less about what the cross symbolizes and more about where it sits: In the middle of the Mojave National Preserve, which is government land.

The high court on Wednesday will consider whether the display violates the First Amendment's provision for a separation of church and state.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cross; docket; mojavecross; scotus

1 posted on 10/05/2009 10:48:01 AM PDT by TaraP
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And California wonders why it is in shambles...
2 posted on 10/05/2009 10:49:16 AM PDT by TaraP (*Religion* is Man trying to reach GOD.Christ is GOD reaching out to Man.)
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To: TaraP

Didn’t 5 or 6 of the Catholic SCOTUS Justices attend the Red Mass this past Sunday? When will the ACLU sue to prevent that?


3 posted on 10/05/2009 10:52:38 AM PDT by ken5050 (Save the Earth!!!!! It's the ONLY planet with chocolate!)
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To: TaraP

Thats sick. Very symbolic of a society that thinks 2 men can be “married” and lets pregnant mothers kill their babies.


4 posted on 10/05/2009 10:53:22 AM PDT by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the existing Constitution"Obama Adviser)
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To: TaraP

The Mojave National Preserve was established in 1994. (That’s what I found.)


5 posted on 10/05/2009 10:57:29 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: TaraP

I am sickened by this.


6 posted on 10/05/2009 10:57:42 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: TaraP

So it wasn’t federal land when it was erected....but then became part of the ‘government’ when the land became a national park.

But, if they can transfer that little pocket of land to private ownership...we are home free. That is what they are deciding, right?

Well....lets hope for that decision. You would think it could be ‘grandfathered’ as almost a historical monument. After all, in the USA anything older than 75 years is an antique....we need to preserve these antique markers for history’s sake.


7 posted on 10/05/2009 11:05:50 AM PDT by Dudoight
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It’s hardly establishing a religion and we are far from regarding it as “Holy”. It’s a memorial.


8 posted on 10/05/2009 11:10:21 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: TaraP

How can it “violate” the Constitution? It’s been there for 75 years and is a free exercise of religion. Are sacred religious ceremonies held on Indian reservations a violation of the First Amendment?


9 posted on 10/05/2009 11:16:02 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (I don't remember Americans being called "racists" when we fought against Hillarycare.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

The world is becoming more evil and that is what we are now seeing in the world...

The Spirit of the Antichrist on the globe..

Thanks be to GOD it is only for a short time!


10 posted on 10/05/2009 11:21:24 AM PDT by TaraP (*Religion* is Man trying to reach GOD.Christ is GOD reaching out to Man.)
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To: Sacajaweau

ABSOLUTELY.

You said it best!


11 posted on 10/05/2009 11:26:13 AM PDT by Dudoight
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hey lets all put up Crosses on our land!!!!So these nuts will go bonkers seeing all the crosses!!!


12 posted on 10/05/2009 11:49:17 AM PDT by GregB (Attention Sarah Palin supporters!!it cost 1 dollar to read this.Please send your money to Sarah!!!!)
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To: TaraP

I can hardly wait for my front row seat in Heaven to see what God is going to do to all these heathens.I am so fed up with the utter Godlessness in our country and the world at large.


13 posted on 10/05/2009 11:54:50 AM PDT by thethirddegree
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Sounds like a great plan to me.


14 posted on 10/05/2009 12:21:23 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: TaraP

This is when actual Americans in the area must stand up and tell the judge to go to hell.


15 posted on 10/05/2009 12:21:43 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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If having a memorial cross out in the desert (where hardly anybody can see it) on government land offends them, I can just imagine how they feel about Arlington National Cemetery. That’s government land, isn’t it? I’ve seen several crosses there. *gasp* The horror... /sarc


16 posted on 10/05/2009 2:36:02 PM PDT by grateful
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The Godless ACLU left are kind of like those Taliban who blew up those giant buddhist statues. They have no respect for America's historical monuments and less for American soldiers. They're red-diaper doper babies who burn the flag and want to smash the crosses off war memorials.
17 posted on 10/05/2009 4:01:43 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: TaraP

This may come back to bite the liberals pushing this case. The appeals court ruled that the land transfer from the government to the VFW was illegal because it violated the “General Welfare” clause of Article II Section 8. It would be nice if SCOTUS were to rule that any law passed by congress must advance the general welfare; not just the “limited welfare” of a special interest group. The General Welfare clause was supposed to limit the government by requiring that the enumerated powers could only be used if they advanced the General Welfare and could not be used to advance only the welfare of a narrow special interest who might have political connections.


18 posted on 10/07/2009 10:47:44 AM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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