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Steelers QB Connected to Another Lawsuit
Fox News ^ | 10/4/09 | AP

Posted on 10/04/2009 10:03:59 AM PDT by flintsilver7

RENO, Nev. — A former restaurant worker claims he was fired because he had demanded to see identification for a young-looking woman at Ben Roethlisberger's table where the NFL quarterback and his friends were drinking.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania; US: Utah
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To: OldDeckHand

And I bet most entertainers/celebrities have these same personality disorders. Witness the Hollywood Idiots coming to the defense of Roman Polanksi, for example. They declare his arrest to be an affront to artistic freedom, or minimize the offense by saying it wasn’t “rape rape” or a bad enough assault on the girl.

And to think that our culture looks up to these damaged personalities as role models. Very sad.


21 posted on 10/04/2009 10:42:19 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: flintsilver7

Gee thanks for your uninformed opinion!!


22 posted on 10/04/2009 10:48:05 AM PDT by vortigern
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To: flintsilver7

“At this point I have to believe that Roethlisberger is not a good guy. Good people simply do not have all of these problems. I’m getting sick and tired of Steelers fans pretending the trouble on their teams doesn’t exist. “

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The “trouble” has more to do with a mediocre running game, mistakes and missed opportunities...on the field, not off.

Ben has not been named a party to the lawsuit...at least nt yet...so I wouldn’t get my shorts in a knot over this.


23 posted on 10/04/2009 10:50:03 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: flintsilver7

He sue is not Kurt Warner but he also is not Michael Vick.


24 posted on 10/04/2009 10:51:44 AM PDT by Frantzie (Do we want ACORN running America's healthcare?)
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To: wac3rd

How about not making comments without having some semblance of a clue?


25 posted on 10/04/2009 11:42:44 AM PDT by Defiant (Hey socialists-- We're right, we fight, get used to it.)
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To: flintsilver7

Apparently Ben is getting too big for his britches.

I’m definitely less of a fan.


26 posted on 10/04/2009 12:14:56 PM PDT by Drea
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To: Vasilli22

That’s exactly the point. Maybe one isolated incident I can see. With all this stuff happening - the motorcycle accident, the civil suit, and now this, something has to be up. There simply isn’t that much smoke if there’s no fire.


27 posted on 10/04/2009 12:52:25 PM PDT by flintsilver7 (Honest reporting hasn't caught on in the United States.)
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To: SoCal Pubbie
why should a VIP get carded like the rest of us? They're VIP’s after all!

That's not the point. VIP's can be jerks. Many of them have uttered the phrase, "Do you know who I am?". Let's assume Big Ben was a jerk, offended because some officious busboy demanded his 27 year old date's ID. He probably didn't want the tabloids knowing the names of the people he was seeing, and guess who would send that info in to the tabloids? Someone checking his date's ID, that's who.

But, the point is not whether he is or isn't a jerk. The point is, it's a non-story as far as Ben is concerned. The girl was 27. The restaurant is very concerned to make its clientele happy. The owner fired the employee as a reasonable business decision in those circumstances. If the guy was at will, then there is no case. If the guy has some claim, then he might get a little money. Big Ben's involvement is not a scandal or reflective of anything about him. He's not married.

And yet a bunch of people, some of whom didn't even read the article, jumped in here to say that Ben is like an NBA rapist.

28 posted on 10/04/2009 1:01:49 PM PDT by Defiant (Hey socialists-- We're right, we fight, get used to it.)
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To: fatnotlazy

This isn’t even about their play. I don’t dislike the Steelers, but I can’t take the constant excuses for the bums on their team.

James Harrison beats up his girlfriend and that’s OK because he’s a great football player. The Steelers got rid of Cedrick Wilson for an almost identical incident, but Harrison’s was OK. Oh, I forgot it’s OK because his girlfriend supposedly didn’t want the baby to be baptized. I’ll have to remember that beating her is OK. It’s also OK to assault a much smaller player in the middle of the Super Bowl because he’s cut blocking. The point is there are surely thousands of people who have disagreements over baptism; only the thugs resort to assault. Hundreds of NFL players are cut blocked every Sunday and they don’t start throwing punches.

Hines Ward is a tough player and seems like a good guy. That doesn’t change the fact that he occasionally cheap-shots defenders who aren’t looking. I get told this is OK because it’s football, even though the play is over (or on the other side of the field). I’m sorry, but that’s cheap.

Ben Roethlisberger gets the same excuse machine in motion.


29 posted on 10/04/2009 1:05:17 PM PDT by flintsilver7 (Honest reporting hasn't caught on in the United States.)
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To: Glenn

Thanks for your constructive contribution to this thread.


30 posted on 10/04/2009 1:06:28 PM PDT by flintsilver7 (Honest reporting hasn't caught on in the United States.)
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To: Defiant
I agree that the lawsuit is most likely without merit. But I disagree that a VIP should not expect to have young looking guests carded. It happens all the time, for many people well into their 20’s and even 30’s. Depending on the jurisdiction, not carding young people can really get a proprietor in deep trouble, like losing your liquor license altogether. How would those VIP’s feel about that?
31 posted on 10/04/2009 1:08:18 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: SoCal Pubbie
I agree with you that it is not unusual for anyone to get carded if they are in their 20's. VIP's don't get a pass on that. But at a place that caters to them, and wants their business, if a VIP is angry at something, even unreasonably unhappy, a business that wants to have VIPs and buzz and cachet will do what it takes to make the VIPs happy. If it takes giving them their favorite room, making a special dish, closing a section of the restaurant, or giving them privacy with respect to their dates, then a business that wants to stay in business will do those things.

Not saying it's right, it's just the way it is. It is an insight into Rothlesberger's character that fans should note, but it is a far far way from the kind of thing that Kobe Bryant went through. Jerks are plentiful in sports, they probably outnumber the humble, well mannered ones.

32 posted on 10/04/2009 1:30:23 PM PDT by Defiant (Hey socialists-- We're right, we fight, get used to it.)
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To: flintsilver7

I hear ya. I do think though that we don’t know the whole story in this matter. I’d rather wait and see how it all plays out. As I said, Ben has not even been named as a defendant in this suit, and who knows what counterclaim(s) Harrahs may have. For all we know, the ex-employee might have been fired because he had a history of being a lousy worker and this incident was maybe the last straw. There could be other legitimate reasons why he was shown the door.

Plaintiffs allege a lot of baloney in their lawsuits. It’s kinda like throwing a plate of spaghetti against the wall to see what sticks. We probably won’t get the whole story until it all plays out. If the matter settles, we may never know the whole story.


33 posted on 10/04/2009 3:05:04 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: flintsilver7

BUMP for later read


34 posted on 10/05/2009 4:49:06 AM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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