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Firstly, I don’t think you can blame this on the President. It’s not like he wants this to happen. Plenty of troops were killed when Bush was in office, way more than under Obama. I suspect if Obama had his druthers and could do what he felt like, he’d withdraw all troops from Iraq and Afghanistan immediately, but that’s just not politically feasible. Thoughts and prayers should be with the troops and not on blaming someone.

That said, it is his problem that he’s doing things like jetting off to Denmark, laughing it up with with a gap-toothed pervert and having beers with Henry Gates while his soldiers are dying and his commanders are urgently requesting reinforcements. If he truly feels that the mission is no longer productive, then be a man, get on TV say so, and bring them home. But to just sit around and do nothing while this happens is intolerable.

More importantly, note how the media covers this. In Iraq whenever troops were killed it was the number one story on the front page. Every news show did these in depth profiles and sob stories designed to whip up resentment and anger at Bush. It worked. Meanwhile, we’re having record casualties in Afghanistan and I haven’t heard one story about anyone killed there this year. No front page profiles. No Katie Couric or Brian Williams sob stories. Letterman was mad as hell about Iraq. He had Obama on and didn’t seem to care that hundreds are dying in Afghanistan. Where’s the media on this? Where are all those anti0war activists who cared so much about the troops? Nowhere.

I’m almost torn because I know that a huge debacle and deterioration in Afghanistan would mean that Obama will be gone by 2013, but I don’t want to see the country and the military have to suffer to bring that about.

I wonder if President Obama can see Arlington from his house. 8 more of his soldiers died and he’s missing in action.

But that’s to be expected from a guy whose only concept of the military was probably buying a pair of khakis at Old Navy.

Obama changed the Rules of Engagement in Afghanistan on orders from his bosses in Saudi Arabia. Our boys are sitting ducks.

"""Plenty of troops were killed when Bush was in office, way more than under Obama.""""......

Everything you stated is ok AFTER the above.

Of course more were killed when Bush was in office for 8 years. Obama 10 MONTHS and the number killed are growing rapidly, when it is not necessary if only the impostor Potus would commit to sending what is needed. So, in light of that this is O's war now and he will be blamed for what is happening and deservedly so.

Plus the fact that the News kept track EVERY stinking evening of just what the dead count was, where is the same for O's war? Fox News should get on this and keep a running total. Glen Beck, Limbaugh are you listening?

“Firstly, I don’t think you can blame this on the President. It’s not like he wants this to happen. Plenty of troops were killed when Bush was in office, way more than under Obama. I suspect if Obama had his druthers and could do what he felt like, he’d withdraw all troops from Iraq and Afghanistan immediately, but that’s just not politically feasible. Thoughts and prayers should be with the troops and not on blaming someone”

WRONG!!!!! Hey look how many troops have died under Obama and he has been in a short while. Bush cared deeply, he talked to his Commanders very very often. I saw a program today that he communicated from his secure post in the basement of the White House to the commanders overseas.
Obama, talks to his once and then a quickie on board of an airplane. He could communicate from the White House too, but no, doesn't care.
He goes out wining and dining, I do not think he has the ability to care. If it is not about him, go get lost.

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Firstly, I don’t think you can blame this on the President. It’s not like he wants this to happen. Plenty of troops were killed when Bush was in office, way more than under Obama. I suspect if Obama had his druthers and could do what he felt like, he’d withdraw all troops from Iraq and Afghanistan immediately, but that’s just not politically feasible. Thoughts and prayers should be with the troops and not on blaming someone.

You could not be more naive
You could not be more mistaken
I cannot say Obama personally but I promise you that many in the White House and many that work for Obama are just fine with Americans getting killed unnecessarily in Afghanistan. They have exposed our troops via very restrictive rules of engagement and by not upping the troop levels as the generals have requested
In fact the motivations are secondary. You can blame 0bama directly for these rules of engagement. They are imposed by order of the Commander in Chief

My son is one of those troops that report to CIC Zer0. He accepted, as do his wife, mother, and me that part of the terms of his employment was that he might get killed. He enlisted during the Presidency of G.W. Bush because he felt that this is his generation's war and the country and the Corps needed him. He planned to be a "lifer". It isn't just my assessment, its the Marine Corp's assessment that he has potential as a leader. He plans to get out as soon as his enlistment is up next May. Those are our and my bonifides that our son has graciously provided us.

The blood of every single American warrior killed in Afghanistan on CIC Zer0's watch is on the hands of Comrade in Chief Zer0. I heard the other day that the number is in excess of 320 American warriors on President Pantywaist's watch while he screws around with restrictive ROEs, indecision, playing both ends off against the middle, not listening to his commander on the ground, and on and on. He wants it to happen, if he didn't, he could take definitive steps to mitigate and he hasn't. His is a tough job even when someone actually trys to do it. He isn't even trying. You can give the bastard a pass, I don't think very many military families are in the mood to do so.

"More importantly, note how the media covers this. In Iraq whenever troops were killed it was the number one story on the front page. Every news show did these in depth profiles and sob stories designed to whip up resentment and anger at Bush. It worked. Meanwhile, we’re having record casualties in Afghanistan and I haven’t heard one story about anyone killed there this year. No front page profiles. No Katie Couric or Brian Williams sob stories. Letterman was mad as hell about Iraq. He had Obama on and didn’t seem to care that hundreds are dying in Afghanistan. Where’s the media on this? Where are all those anti0war activists who cared so much about the troops? Nowhere."

This is a classic case of communists protecting other communists. The jerks at NPRCBSMSNBCNYTCNNABCNBC and other communist organizations are not going to allow their fellow communist to be exposed or embarrased.

However, these same COMMUNISTS will open fire on anyone who is Conservative or has some other type of pro-American attitude.

That's why countless Americans are turning to talk radio and the internet for their news. As it oozes out of the government and mainstream television, the communist manifesto is being rejected by Americans everywhere.

Where’s the media on this?

They're too busy insulting Sarah Palin and Joe Wilson.

BTW, Nancy Pelosi puts out a book and 500 people buy it; Sarah Palin puts out a book and it will sell millions and go straight to #1 on the NYT Bestseller list.

Why is no one else doing this sort of an analogy?

Anyway, I think the way of our attack should be that Obama himself, while he was campaigning, said (repeatedly) that Afghanistan was/is the RIGHT war. Because of this, 0 would have something invested in making sure things go as smoothly as possible in Afghanistan. At least, you would think.

Riiiiiiight?

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You wrote:

“Firstly, I don’t think you can blame this on the President.”

We will. 8 years of “Bush’s fault.” Bush is being blamed for Chicago losing the Olympics!

“It’s not like he wants this to happen.”

I’m not so sure. Does Obama strike you as a man interested in either supporting the US military or US interests abroad?

“Plenty of troops were killed when Bush was in office, way more than under Obama.”

In Afghanistan?

“I suspect if Obama had his druthers and could do what he felt like, he’d withdraw all troops from Iraq and Afghanistan immediately, but that’s just not politically feasible.”

And that’s the problem. He would cut and run. What he should do is back our military so that we win as much of an outright victory as possible. And Obama doesn’t just NOT see that in the cards. He doesn’t want that.

“Thoughts and prayers should be with the troops and not on blaming someone.”

8 years of “Bush’s fault.”

“...but that’s just not politically feasible.”

To he!! with politics...we’re talking about soldiers lives and doing the right thing.

Firstly, I don’t think you can blame this on the President. It’s not like he wants this to happen. Plenty of troops were killed when Bush was in office, way more than under Obama. I suspect if Obama had his druthers and could do what he felt like, he’d withdraw all troops from Iraq and Afghanistan immediately, but that’s just not politically feasible. Thoughts and prayers should be with the troops and not on blaming someone.

I know others have responded to this, but do you SERIOUSLY think Obama cares about this?? Are you SERIOUSLY drawing a parallel between Obama and President Bush regarding casualties? Do you SERIOUSLY think Obama is not to blame for putting our troops at great risk by changing the ROE in Afghanistan?

Obama could care less about troop deaths. To him the troops are the enemy. President Bush respected and cared for his troops and suffered with every death.

You know nothing if you think there's any parallel here, or that Obama cares.

Who changed the ROE?