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Cash for Clunkers Comes Crashing Down
The Heritage Foundation ^ | October 2, 2009 | Nick Loris

Posted on 10/02/2009 7:33:36 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

What goes up must fall just as hard. Case in point: cash for clunkers:

"The dramatic decline in sales reported Thursday by the Big Three automakers suggested the extent to which the stimulus act has propped up the economy. The government’s wildly popular “Cash for Clunkers” program drove consumer spending to its highest level in eight years in August. But after it ended, so did the growth in auto sales.

General Motors’ sales plunged 36 percent in September compared with August. Ford plummeted 37 percent. Chrysler dove 33 percent.

Cash for clunkers “was a one-time boost of sales followed by a crater,” said Ben Herzon, an economist at Macroeconomic Advisers. The firm forecast that the program was likely to have no effect as a stimulant for national economic output.”

“It was disappointing. I expected the month to be a bit stronger, but it just wasn’t,” said Mark LaNeve, G.M.’s vice president of United States sales.

Politicians initially lauded cash for clunkers as a successful program that stimulated the economy, particularly the ailing auto industry, and the program also inspired consumers to buy more fuel efficient vehicles at the expense of completely destroying their old ones. Nancy Gibbs sums it up well in Time:

“What does it tell us about our national character when the most popular government program in years is an economically dubious, environmentally negligible, politically lazy handout from 99% of the population to the other 1%, all aimed at reviving the economy from its vegetative state?”

If you subsidize anything enough, people will buy it. Industry incentives are increasing but nowhere near the level of the $3,500-$4,500 taxpayer-funded “incentives.” Worse, cash for clunkers could have serious adverse consequences for consumers’ behavior when it comes to purchasing goods. If consumers come to expect a handout from the government, they may hold off on buying a new product.

It’s difficult to say when the cash for clunkers hangover will subside, but head of Chrysler’s sales organization Peter Fong thinks that “the remainder of 2009 will continue to be a challenge for the U.S. automotive market.”

So much for that talk of a successful government program.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: automakers; bho44; bhodot; clunkers; congress; economy; greenshoots; obama; unemployment; unions
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I was just re-reading the Constitution and didn't see anything in there on government giveaway programs...
1 posted on 10/02/2009 7:33:37 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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Cash for clunkers “was a one-time boost of sales followed by a crater,”

Now that we have run a short little experiment, can anyone explain the difference between the cash for clunkers program and results, and the larger stimulus package and its inevitable result? Are we expecting something different?

2 posted on 10/02/2009 7:36:24 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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“What does it tell us about our national character when the most popular government program in years is an economically dubious, environmentally negligible, politically lazy handout from 99% of the population to the other 1%, all aimed at reviving the economy from its vegetative state?”

Take it a step further. What does it tell us about a President that uses the same economically dubious and politically lazy handout from 99% of the population to the other 1%, all in the interest of "spreading the wealth" and "economic justice"...?

3 posted on 10/02/2009 7:39:07 PM PDT by edpc (Spay and neuter your liberals)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What on earth did they think was going to happen?


4 posted on 10/02/2009 7:39:28 PM PDT by Not A Snowbird (Socialism is the plundering of the productive by the unaccountable)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Same with the $8000 bonus for first time home buyers....who the hell is handing them $8000 grand? WE are - why should we be paying anything for anyone? I could back a $0 down program if they qualified with good credit - like what is given to Veterans - that is no money out of my pocket or yours, but $8000 free handout just because someone wants to buy a home???? It infuriates me


5 posted on 10/02/2009 7:40:55 PM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Blankety blankety blank)
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What on earth did they think was going to happen?

That's the whole point...they don't think. They feeeeeeeeeeeeeel....

6 posted on 10/02/2009 7:41:47 PM PDT by kromike
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>> I was just re-reading the Constitution and didn’t see anything in there on government giveaway programs...

Did you check the penumbras? (You may have to pull back the foreskin around the parchment to see them. Or something.)


7 posted on 10/02/2009 7:42:06 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Gee, yet another idea by or child/man in charge that was not completely thought out. How many more brilliant ideas must we suffer through before we, as a country, are no more?

Didn’t Mao go though many of these failures when he first got into power? Failures that all but destroyed China.

Immature and inexperienced people suddenly in power tend to cause more damage then good.


8 posted on 10/02/2009 7:42:50 PM PDT by doc1019 (The CIA waterboards, Obama wordboards.)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

Very eloquently put!


9 posted on 10/02/2009 7:43:22 PM PDT by 2harddrive
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

One huge benefit of "Cash For Clunkers:"

It got lots of cars with Obama bumper stickers off the road!


10 posted on 10/02/2009 7:44:00 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Never kick leftists when they're down. Wait till they're half way back up. You get better leverage!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Awwwwwwww. Don’t tell me ‘Hoopties for Hybrids’ didn’t work. Poor, poor Van Jones. /s


11 posted on 10/02/2009 7:45:51 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear ('They're drinking the juice.'~ Barack H. Obama)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

>> why should we be paying anything for anyone?

Right. And, I hate to say it, ‘cause there’s a lot of folks right here on FR that will disagree, but the SAME THING is true of that sixty-fourth through one-hundred-fifty-second week of UNEMPLOYMENT everyone is salivating over.

Why work? Seriously. Why try? Why retrain? Why move? The Bambi government will take care of you.


12 posted on 10/02/2009 7:45:57 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
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To: Vince Ferrer
"...Now that we have run a short little experiment, can anyone explain the difference between the cash for clunkers program and results, and the larger stimulus package and its inevitable result? Are we expecting something different?..."

Vince Ferrer, that was one of the most succinct statements I have seen around here in a while.

13 posted on 10/02/2009 7:52:10 PM PDT by rlmorel (Obama, The Flatulence of One Thousand Black Dogs After Eating Boiled Eggs Be Upon Him...)
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Aside from the fact that this subsidy comes from borrowed money from a country that just celebrated an anniversary of communism, in spite of this obvious expected drop in sales, Ford had in increase in market percentage, good for them.

It will in time, prove to be a disaster for Obama Motors.

Saturn deal failed, fair to say no more money for GM in the coming months, it will be the next outrage when GM comes back to the checkbook.

Just won't work in flyover country.
14 posted on 10/02/2009 7:55:46 PM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Should take some Stimulus money and send all the Congressmen and Prez Zero to an economics class. Obviously they are all seriously lacking in that area.

Maybe it would "stimulate" their minds enough to know government giveaways don't work. I guess they never heard the "give a man a fish....".

15 posted on 10/02/2009 7:56:48 PM PDT by Lawgvr1955 (You can never have too much cowbell !!)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
I could back a $0 down program

One of the things that got us into this mess.

16 posted on 10/02/2009 7:58:16 PM PDT by ColdWater
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To: ColdWater
Not necessarily. I said with good credit, not the hand 'em a loan they can't pay crap - Many Veterans have gotten homes on a zero down - we did it once ourselves -

But I do agree that all the crappy loans should be halted - that is what got us into this mess.

17 posted on 10/02/2009 8:02:38 PM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Blankety blankety blank)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It's in the preamble. The part where it says "promote the general welfare" - that means give out welfare.

Now that you've peeled yourself off the ceiling and can read this paragraph, I will point out that I've actually SEEN that argument on DU, I swear to God.

18 posted on 10/02/2009 8:09:58 PM PDT by Hardastarboard (Maureen Dowd is right. I DON'T like our President's color. He's a Red.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think you forgot to look in the penumbras. Go back and look again.


19 posted on 10/02/2009 8:17:11 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

bump


20 posted on 10/02/2009 8:18:04 PM PDT by gibsosa
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