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GM to end Saturn brand as buyer drops bid
AFP ^ | 9/30/2009

Posted on 09/30/2009 1:52:08 PM PDT by bruinbirdman

General Motors said Tuesday it would wind down its Saturn brand after talks broke off with Penske Automotive Group on a bid for the nameplate.

GM said in a statement that Penske "has decided to terminate discussions" to acquire Saturn "because of the inability to source new products beyond what it had asked GM to build on contract."

"This is very disappointing news and comes after months of hard work by hundreds of dedicated employees and Saturn retailers who tried to make the new Saturn a reality," the US automaker said.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: automakers; automotive; endoftheroad; failedcompanies; generalmotors; gm; governmentmotors; saturn
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To: pissant

“Lower the damn price and sell it, you idiots.”

GM is not a business. It’s a gubmint agency. It has no interest in money or logical decisions.

They’re just gumint employees covering their rear-ends.


21 posted on 09/30/2009 2:18:56 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: bruinbirdman
Wasn't Saturn an experiment of NON-UAW at GM ?

22 posted on 09/30/2009 2:19:07 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Mr. K

The sad thing is, I’m actually eligible for the GM employee discount because my grandfather worked there for decades. However, Obama Motors will never see one dime from me. I’ll stick to my problem-free Acura, thanks.


23 posted on 09/30/2009 2:20:00 PM PDT by VA_Gentleman (Everyone says they have a plan... until they get punched in the face. -Mike Tyson)
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To: DeFault User
My epiphany was caused by a 1981 Pontiac Phoenix...

My condolences.

[shudder]

24 posted on 09/30/2009 2:25:44 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: oh8eleven

Yeah but guys, Chevrolet is the heart of America! Even if the paint did peel off the roof of this 1986 Suburban I bought new and GM said it was just coincidence that the paint was falling off other GM’s, too.

parsy, who owns a Dodge and a Ford


25 posted on 09/30/2009 2:26:20 PM PDT by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: bruinbirdman
...not to worry, when Odumbo finds room under the bus, the useful idiots will find themselves working for the Chinese government when they take over GM in a trade....call in their notes.
26 posted on 09/30/2009 2:28:15 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: bruinbirdman

If Penske wanted to buy a car company he should’ve bought Opel. And the Smart? Geez.

cheers
Jim


27 posted on 09/30/2009 2:31:54 PM PDT by gymbeau (Free Tibet! (Limit two per customer))
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To: DeusExMachina05

Ditto. I had an early SC2 5sp coupe that I loved. I used to be a bit of a”GM car guy”; owned a half-dozen of them over the years, but I’ll never buy anything from Government Motors.

Damned shame.


28 posted on 09/30/2009 2:48:46 PM PDT by Zeddicus
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To: pissant

Who’d want to? All Saturn has been for the past few years is GM’s way of selling watered down European-design Opels shoddily assembled by the UAW, with the exception of the Sky and Astra. Unfortunately, those two cars do not a viable lineup make.

Good riddance.


29 posted on 09/30/2009 2:51:43 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: bruinbirdman

Another lousy Government Motors brand bites the dust.

(Note I did own a SC2 and it was a piece of work).


30 posted on 09/30/2009 2:52:20 PM PDT by edge10 (Obama lied, babies died!)
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To: MikeWUSAF; Texas Fossil

Same here. 98 SC2, Crap trans. I feel bad for the workers but not for a company that was too stupid to live.


31 posted on 09/30/2009 2:55:42 PM PDT by TalBlack
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To: Petronski

“My epiphany was caused by a 1981 Pontiac Phoenix...”

Reminds me of a friend who had a 1981 Chevy Citation. THe door locks were designed in such a way that in Wisconsin winters they were unusually susceptible to freezing. The hatch lock did not freeze up - so on several occasions two or three of us had to enter the car via the hatchback (and on one occasion had to exit that way as well.) The X-cars had to be the quintessence of shizzle.


32 posted on 09/30/2009 3:01:29 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: Wally_Kalbacken

I can recall several mid-late seventies GM cars whose door latches would freeze OPEN, so that an improvised rope or lever had to be gripped while driving to prevent the door flopping open on a curve.


33 posted on 09/30/2009 3:04:27 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: TalBlack

This means more sales increase for Ford and Toyota.


34 posted on 09/30/2009 3:06:32 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

“Wasn’t Saturn an experiment of NON-UAW at GM ?”

No.


35 posted on 09/30/2009 3:11:20 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Petronski

Youch! That’s more of a problem, to be sure.

Contrast that with a 1996 Nissan I had which I traded in 8 years later with 127K miles - and the ORIGINAL clutch. I’m not saying the car was beat, but it wasn’t driven gingerly by any means. It’s like defying gravity, durability like that. The people I know who owned Saturns liked them, or perhaps liked the owner experience more than the car itself. I never found them interesting as products. But leave it to GM to score a perfect 10 on the dealership/customer service aspect of a brand - but then hitch it to dull products and production economics that never showed any green. Oy.


36 posted on 09/30/2009 3:16:49 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: parsifal
I bought new and GM said it was just coincidence that the paint was falling off other GM’s, too.
If anyone is known for bad paint it's Ford. What's really pathetic about that is they're the company that invented the E-coat process (IIRC) about 50 years ago but were too cheap to implement it into all their factories.
I don't know about GM paint, but the new Camaro looks like a winner. Reminds me of my '68 Camaro SS.
37 posted on 09/30/2009 3:52:19 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oh8eleven

I dearly loved my 1997 Mustang GT, but the paint was peeling off in 6” x 12” sheets and Ford just didn’t see anything wrong with that.


38 posted on 09/30/2009 4:12:26 PM PDT by cyphergirl
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To: cyphergirl
the paint was peeling off in 6” x 12” sheets and Ford just didn’t see anything wrong with that.
Some years ago I took my three year old Ford Explorer into the dealer to complain that the step rails were getting pretty rusty.
He said I was right ... then smugly reminded me that they weren't covered by the warranty because they were considered "accessories."
He went into the paint shop and brought me out a plastic container of matching paint. I opened it, leaned it over his desk, and asked if he was sure it was the right color.
Before he could open his mouth I "accidentally" dumped it on his desk.
39 posted on 09/30/2009 4:26:25 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: bruinbirdman

GM built a “greenfields” plant down in Tennessee, and did not even put their chop on the brand for several years. You had to search to even find the connection between GM and Saturn. Only when Oldsmobile begin to fall out the endgate was there much attention paid to Saturn as a brand.

Saturn NEVER turned a profit for GM. They were a cult vehicle, made to resemble something like the Volkswagen cult that swept America in the 1960’s and early 1970’s, until air-cooled engines became unpopular for ecological reasons. Saturn was a half-hearted attempt to build something engineered here in the US that could compete on a par with Toyota or Honda (they failed). Million-dollar ideas with fifty-cent executions. The engineering was always better than the finished product, but that is a common failing of many products. There was always the inclination to chisel on the quality of the finished product and do the “economical” thing, substituting an inferior (but cheaper) component, in the hopes the failure rate would not be too high.

Sometimes, all the failures came together on one example.


40 posted on 09/30/2009 4:37:21 PM PDT by alloysteel (....the Kennedys can be regarded as dysfunctional. Even in death.)
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