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Deal to raze 4 Klamath dams
San Francisco Chronicle ^
| 9/30/9
| Peter Fimrite
Posted on 09/30/2009 7:54:18 AM PDT by SmithL
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To: KarlInOhio
Each salmon will be caught as it enters the river and an empty rechargeable batter and a generator will be attached to it. As it swims upstream it will charge the battery. Then the batteries will be retrieved when they reach their mating ground and sent to San Francisco to run their city lights.As I see it, there's only one problem with your analysis. Hundreds of seals, sea lions and otters will die due to ingesting those batteries when they eat those salmon.
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posted on
09/30/2009 8:21:09 AM PDT
by
Night Hides Not
(If Dick Cheney = Darth Vader, then Joe Biden = Dark Helmet)
To: Red Badger
Last year, the Chinese fishing fleet took more than 17 MILLION TONS OF FISH from the Pacific. I suppose they had nothing to do with this "decline".............. Or with our "policies" governing streams and "endangered species"? Central Valley is now a dustbowl to the double benefit of China.
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posted on
09/30/2009 8:21:23 AM PDT
by
Poincare
To: SmithL
I think that’s a great idea, provided that they open up a nuclear power plant to replace the energy that we would stop producing. Oh, they’re not planning on building a new nuclear power plant? Well, I guess they can all go to sleep when the sun goes down and not have any electrical appliances. But they’ll have plenty of fish to cook over the fire.
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posted on
09/30/2009 8:23:52 AM PDT
by
AuH2ORepublican
(Fred Thompson appears human-sized because he is actually standing a million miles away.)
To: Jack Black
Well other than a small piece of Oregon there are no Redwoods anywhere else.It is my understanding that there is a stand of redwoods in New Mexico that has trees that best many in California. It's not well publicized because the folks there don't want the traffic to the area.
If I can find something on it, I'll post a link.
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posted on
09/30/2009 8:25:22 AM PDT
by
IYAS9YAS
(The townhalls were going great until the oPods showed up.)
To: SmithL
Reason 1A why global warming is BS.
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posted on
09/30/2009 8:25:36 AM PDT
by
Tribune7
(I am Joe Wilson!)
To: equalitybeforethelaw
I guess they dont want the water and the electricity. Who knew SF was self sufficient? The whack left's goal is obvious...You'll only need two things in their green world.....
To: SmithL
This doesn’t really bode well for the 4 dams on the lower Snake here in Idaho that have also been targeted to save a stupid (and tasty might I add) fish.
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posted on
09/30/2009 8:35:39 AM PDT
by
Domandred
(Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system. I am Jim Thompson.)
To: Poincare
If you wrote this as the plot of a book in 1950, people would say you were off your rocker....................
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posted on
09/30/2009 8:35:59 AM PDT
by
Red Badger
(The Zero has more airtime than Michael Jordan...........)
To: Domandred
If the fish is so tasty, why isn’t it farmed?................
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posted on
09/30/2009 8:36:46 AM PDT
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Red Badger
(The Zero has more airtime than Michael Jordan...........)
To: Little Pig
Apparently they work very well.
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posted on
09/30/2009 8:39:53 AM PDT
by
Blood of Tyrants
(The Second Amendment. Don't MAKE me use it.)
To: AngelesCrestHighway
I wonder which hut Nancy will pick? The bike reminds of Pee Wees Great Adventure.
To: SmithL; CPT Clay; GeronL; Jack Black; Travis McGee
These are all dams below the Klamath Lake reservoir where the irrigation waters for the farmers from the 2001 crisis originates.
I do not agree with this foolishness, because the deal (which was talked about by the government some time ago) talks about finding other renewable sources for the energy.
The cheapest, most efficient, renewable energy is already in place with those dams and they now intend to take it out, eroding electircal production in that area on the unspecified, liberal promise of "something" in the future.
So, from an energy standpoint, it is very bad policy.
From an irigation standpoint, it will probably put more pressure on Klamath Lake to provide what is deemed the water necessary to meet the environmental/salmon needs. But the farmers in the Klamath Basin have been involved in the negotiations to try and ensure their needs are met and committed to.
In 2001 they did not have that capability, and those events dealt directly with their water in their lake Lake. These dams are all well below them and much more directed at electrical production.
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posted on
09/30/2009 8:47:51 AM PDT
by
Jeff Head
(Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
To: SmithL
We can replace them with coal-fired plants.
To: SmithL
What about the poor sucker fish! A little over eight years ago there was talk of Klamath Falls being Lexington Green West.
9/11 made the farmers and their supporters back off out of concern for our Republic. Meanwhile enviro wacko rabble continued on destroying 100 years of farm families and not caring one whit about the Republic?
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09/30/2009 9:14:00 AM PDT
by
WilliamofCarmichael
(If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
To: massgopguy
Near Yreka the rive is in a very deep canyon. If it floods Noah has returned.
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posted on
09/30/2009 9:19:04 AM PDT
by
mad_as_he$$
(Beneath this mask there is an idea, Mr. Creedy, and ideas are bulletproof. V for victory)
To: sasquatch
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posted on
09/30/2009 9:19:31 AM PDT
by
mad_as_he$$
(Beneath this mask there is an idea, Mr. Creedy, and ideas are bulletproof. V for victory)
To: Jeff Head
Thanks, that is a good response.
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posted on
09/30/2009 9:22:15 AM PDT
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GeronL
To: WilliamofCarmichael
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posted on
09/30/2009 9:26:24 AM PDT
by
Jeff Head
(Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
To: Little Pig
I don’t know about fish ladders, but there is a dam on the Columbia River, Bonneville Dam I believe, that has a very effective system for allowing salmon to get upstream. I don’t know why that could not be added to the dams in question.
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posted on
09/30/2009 9:27:50 AM PDT
by
csmusaret
(Joe Wilson--Speaking truth to power)
To: SmithL
Better fire up that dirty Coal plant. Morons.
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posted on
09/30/2009 9:29:03 AM PDT
by
Danae
(No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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