Posted on 09/27/2009 8:36:46 AM PDT by Never on my watch
The FBI has released long-secret security tapes that give new glimpses into the chaos during the minutes after the Oklahoma City bombing.
(Excerpt) Read more at newsok.com ...
I was actually inside my house. But I sonic booms from aircraft feel similar depending how close you are.
Upon reflection, the linebacker analogy was an exageration. A shockwave from a close sonic boom would be better. But the differece was that a shockwave seems to go BOoooommm, this felt like BOOM then silence.
I just remember saying “WHAT THE F^<K WAS THAT!” Then I rmembered that my mother was visiting.
McVeigh and Nichols were no better than a VC murdering a teacher in Hue, or a suicide bomber in Iraq hitting a wedding, or a palestinian walking into an Israeli pizza joint.
Their “liberty” talk, and talk of the constitution, was an excuse. Wonder what Jefferson, Madison, Washington, or Franklin would say about cowards murdering a bunch of preschoolers, old people, and secretaries in their name?
I believe you on that,,, i live in a town where the military and DOE sometimes do test shots. With the right humidity, etc,,, you can be 6 or 7 miles away and get a good shock. They announce it on the news the day before for that very reason, so as not to alarm people.
Many eyewitnesses have identified Hussain Hashem Al Hussaini as seen with McVeigh. As for Al-Hussaini, after leaving Oklahoma City, he went on to work at Boston's Logan International Airport, the point of origin for several for the 9/11 hijackers, including Mohammad Atta.
One more thing. That motel where McVeigh, Nichols and Al-Hussaini were seen together was later visited (pre-9/11) by Atta, Zacharias Moussaouy and Marwan Al-Shehi.
Benton K. Partin Brigadier Gen. USAF (Ret.) 8908 Captains Row Alexandria, Virginia 22308 703-780-7652 July 30, 1995 Sen. Trent Lott United States Senate 487 Senate Russell Office Building Washington, DC 205102403
Dear Sen. Lott:
The attached report contains conclusive proof that the bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, was not caused solely by the truck bomb. Evidence shows that the massive destruction was primarily the result of four demolition charges placed at critical structural points at the third floor level.
Weapons Experience: I do not offer such an analytical conclusion lightly. I have spent 25 years in research, design, development, test and management of weapons development. This included: handson work at the Ballistic Research Laboratories; Commander of the Air Force Armament Technology Laboratory, and ultimately management responsibility for almost every nonnuclear weapon device in the Air Force (at the Air Force System command, Air Staff and the Office of the Secretary of Defense (OSD) levels). I was also the first chairman of the OSD joint service Air Munitions Requirements and Development Committee. (A more detailed resume appears at Tab 1.)
Observations in Oklahoma City: To verify earlier analysis, I visited Oklahoma City during the last week of June. There I had the opportunity to view hundreds of photographs taken throughout the cleanup operation as the layers of debris were cleared away. The photos present irrefutable evidence that at least four demolition charges were set off at four critical columns of the reinforced concrete structure at the floor level of the third floor.
Conclusion: Based on my experience in weapons development and bomb damage analysis, and on my review of all evidence available, I can say, with a high level of confidence, that the damage pattern on the reinforced concrete superstructure could not possibly have been attained from the single truck bomb. The total incompatibility of this pattern of destruction with a single truck bomb lies in the simple, incontrovertible fact that some of the columns collapsed that should not have collapsed if the damage were caused solely by a truck bomb, and, conversely, some of the columns were left standing that should have collapsed if the damage had been caused solely by the truck bomb.
It is my hope and request that, as a Member of Congress, you will support a Congressional investigation to determine the true initiators of this bombing, which could not have occurred the way in which it has been portrayed as having happened. Further, it is requested that you defer action and reserve judgment on socalled antiterrorism legislation that has serious civil liberties implications, and which would not be passed except for the Oklahoma City bombing until the causes of the Oklahoma City disaster are determined by independent investigators.
Both the Federal Building in Oklahoma and the Trade Center in New York (See New York Times, October 28, 1993, p. A1) show evidence of a counterterrorism sting gone wrong.
No government law enforcement agency should be permitted to demolish, smash and bury evidence of a counterterrorism sting operation, sabotage or terrorist attack without a thorough examination by an independent, technically competent agency.
If an aircraft crashed because of a bomb, or a counterterrorism sting or an FAA Controller error, the FAA would not be permitted to gather and bury the evidence. The National Transportation Safety Board would have been called in to conduct an investigation and where possible every piece of debris would have been collected and arrayed to determine cause of failure.
To remove all ambiguity with respect to the use of supplementary demolition charges, the FBI should be required to release the high quality surveillance color TV camera tape of the Murrah building bombing on April 19, 1995.
It is my observation that the effort required to bomb the A. P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City pales in comparison with the effort to cover up evidence in Oklahoma and the media's withholding of vital information from the American people.
Sincerely yours,
Benton K. Partin Brigadier Gen. USAF (Ret.)
True. The bigoted liberal media, tried to marginalize the Right by classifying McVeigh and Nichols as “right wing extremists”
I heard that too ....
“So what! What am I missing?”
Not much. See my post #10.
many have highlighted the need for more condoms and movies.
and let’s not forget about that OKC was the site of many “islamic” conferences - read Stephen Emerson’s “American Jihad” for more on this. AND I worked at a large hospital in OKC where numerous middle easterners were brought over for workup for liver transplants. When the patients arrived, the usually had 3 or more “family members” with them who stayed near the hospital. This was in the early 1990’s prior to the bombing.
Very interesting. Thanks.
There was lots of talk about two explosions, 2 seconds apart. Did you hear two booms?
I did feel the second, it was muffled abit. Not nearly as loud - flet it as much as heard it. When they demolished the building, we were watching it on TV and several seconds after it fell, I had the same sensation.
I am not sure if that reinforces the ground wave theory or the secondary explosion theory.
Jayna Davis has had the story nailed for years. A few years ago, Dave Schippers became a big advocate of hers. He got depos from about 14 of her witnesses. Yes, folks, there was an Iraqi connection to OKC.
Yeah, I remember when she was THE investigative reporter for the area. When she persued this, it effectively ended her journalism career on local news - IIRC.
KUDOS to her for not letting up.
What is was so complicated about renting a truck, filling it with fertilizer and fuel, parking it in front of a building and setting it off?
90% of the farmers in the country could do that, and except for the part about doing it in secret, they could have it done by noon tomorrow.
I was watching the TV news reports the morning of the bombing.
Eyewitnesses stated that they saw men with FBI jackets searching the perimeters of the Murrah building with dogs BEFORE the bombing.
Another witness said he saw a bomb disposal truck from the Oklahoma City Police Department parked down the street from the Murrah building BEFORE the bombing.
ping for later
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