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1 posted on 09/25/2009 9:47:25 AM PDT by Hawk720
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To: Hawk720
Beth said her husband has no life insurance and no living will

Important for valid debate I think

2 posted on 09/25/2009 9:53:52 AM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system. I am Jim Thompson.)
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To: Hawk720

She is complaining that Medicaid doesn’t pay her husband’s bills until he is destitute? So she should be able to keep all of their money and assets and let the taxpayer foot the bill? Incredible.
Plus if he had life insurance, I bet she would have already murdered him (”let him go”).


4 posted on 09/25/2009 9:57:42 AM PDT by Reddy
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To: Hawk720

I don’t understand the issues here. Wouldn’t it have saved her all of the paperwork hassles if she had killed her husband first? The story doesn’t explain why she wants to wait to do away with him until after all of the paperwork with both the state and the bank is complete.

There is something missing from this story.


5 posted on 09/25/2009 9:58:55 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: Hawk720

I hope Sponge Bob takes care of the family, I mean where would he be without Patrick Starr?


6 posted on 09/25/2009 9:59:16 AM PDT by NavVet ("You Lie!")
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To: Hawk720

Very sad, but why didn’t someone in this guys position in life have term life insurance?


8 posted on 09/25/2009 10:00:06 AM PDT by Cyclone59 (Everything that hits the fan is not evenly distributed)
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To: Hawk720
The story is mostly about lengthy Medicaid applications and appeals. At the very end, we get to:

Beth said she knew in February that her husband wasn't going to improve. After consulting with his family in Howard County, she said she's planning to disconnect his feeding tube within the next few weeks.

11 posted on 09/25/2009 10:01:16 AM PDT by iowamark (certified by Michael Steele as "ugly and incendiary")
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To: Hawk720
Patrick Star:"I can't see a doctor. My job doesn't provide me with health insurance."
Spongebob Squarepants: "What job is that?"
Patrick Star: "Exactly."
14 posted on 09/25/2009 10:04:38 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Hawk720

So this is a 40-something year old man with three children, who earns $122,000 a year and is the primary breadwinner for his family and he DOESN’T HAVE LIFE INSURANCE! (Probably because he was putting the money toward that nice “house on the water.”)

Yet again this is really about the taxpayers being expected to bail out someone for their own irresponsible decisions. I feel bad for the family, but they should have to sell their house and move to humbler digs before they shove their hospital bills onto the backs of taxpayers.


16 posted on 09/25/2009 10:06:52 AM PDT by The4thHorseman
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To: Hawk720

This is sad, but recall that Medicaid is a form of WELFARE and a person is not “automatically eligible” due to accident or life-threatening injury.

What would she have done if there were no “Medicaid?”

I sympathize, yet, this “grown up kid” should have been more responsible for his family and purchased life insurance. Instead, his wife applies for OUR TAX MONEY to subsidize her husband’s irresponsibility.

Again, I’m not being heartless and I sincerely wish this family well, but I still state that MY TAX MONEY should not be used to pay for her husband’s medical bills just because she did not insist that he have life insurance.

EVERY WAGE EARNER should have some form of life insurance. TERM Life is not all THAT expensive, considering the man’s income.


17 posted on 09/25/2009 10:08:14 AM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (Looking for Fraud? Waste? Abuse? Audit ACORN. Audit The Fed.)
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To: Hawk720

The public (government) has no obligation whatsoever here.

Term life insurance policies are so cheap they’re practically free when you’re in your 20s and 30s. The adults in this family had obligations. They should have met those obligations by obtaining readily available insurance.

I would urge this woman to check whether her husband had unknowingly purchased insurance when paying for his softball fees. In Southern California softball players pay team fees. Those fees include SCMAF insurance fees. This insurance may only pay medical, but there may be a fatality clause in there too. I don’t remember. It is possible, this guy was covered under a blanket policy.

I don’t care what her current status is (other than having reasoned sympathy for the loss), the public SHOULD NOT step in to rescue her.

Life’s a bitch.


21 posted on 09/25/2009 10:15:11 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Ded Kennedy, Stealing from the middle class for nearly 40 years to end poverty.)
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To: Hawk720
She has fought simultaneous battles to get Medicaid to cover the costs of her husband's hospitalization, and to work with her bank to approve refinancing the family's waterfront home.

One of these things are different...

29 posted on 09/25/2009 10:41:09 AM PDT by frithguild (Can I drill your head now?)
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To: Hawk720
I'm sorry for her and her children.

I'm stunned when she says: "I just don't understand why a 44-year-old man had to be declared desolate and broke in order to get [Medicaid]," Beth said. "It's state bureaucracy."

No. It's not bureaucracy. It's because Medicaid is a healthcare program for people with limited financial means. Doesn't she understand she has $125,000 sitting in retirement accounts? Does she know that having $125,000 doesn't lump you in the "limited financial means" category in most zip codes?

I know having that money would be helpful in the future -- her husband was the breadwinner and he didn't have life insurance. And I know that money will be gone -- whoooosh -- for medical bills. But to blame lack of Medicaid coverage on the bureaucracy? Ummmm. No.

32 posted on 09/25/2009 10:47:48 AM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred.)
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To: Hawk720

With this guys job and such, why didn’t he have catastrophic care insurance? As crappy as my job is, that is in the package


45 posted on 09/25/2009 1:52:55 PM PDT by Figment ("A communist is someone who reads Marx.An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx" R Reagan)
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To: Hawk720; Abundy; Albion Wilde; AlwaysFree; AnnaSASsyFR; bayliving; BFM; cindy-true-supporter; ...

So, since they didn’t have the foresight to get life insurance, we have to pay for their continued prosperity?

Maryland “Freak State” PING!


51 posted on 09/25/2009 5:06:55 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Barack Obama: in your guts, you know he's nuts!)
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