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31% - White Evangelicals Reject Global Warming (58% of "religiously unaffiliated" blame man)
Pew Research Center ^ | Thu Sep 24, 2009

Posted on 09/24/2009 6:57:58 AM PDT by presidio9

About half (48%) of white mainline Protestants believe the earth is warming as the result of human activity -- roughly the same proportion as among all Americans (47%) -- but only a third of white evangelical Protestants (34%) share that belief. In fact, white evangelical Protestants are the most likely to say there is no solid evidence that global warming is occurring (31%). While only 39% of black Protestants say global warming is a result of human activity, they are, however, the least likely of the religions studied to deny global warming (15%). The unaffiliated (58%) are the most likely to say there is solid evidence the earth is warming because of human activity.

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The problem that I (and a lot of people I talk to) have with these polls is the tend to pigeonhole respondents based on the preconception of the researcher. For example, I happen to believe that there may be some evidence that the earth was getting warmer up until the last decade. I also believe that ice core samples have indicated an increase in the levels of CO2 in the atmosphere. However (and this is not an opinion) I know that there is no legitimate scientist on the planet who can demonstrate a causal relationship between the increase in CO2 levels (the only scenario is which man could possibly be blamed) and increased temperator. There is also plenty of dispute on whether the entire planet actually IS getting warmer - large parts of the planet are indisutably cooling.

So what does that make me? Someone who rejects hard scientific evidence that contrasts with his personal beliefs, or someone who studies all possibilities closely and waits until there is a definitive answer before coming to a conclusion? I won't be the first to submit that people who embrace a concept without evidence becuase it postulates that man is bad and demands that we do a better job of cleaning up after ourselves are the true religious fanatics.

1 posted on 09/24/2009 6:57:59 AM PDT by presidio9
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To: presidio9

Last time I was in the methodist church of my youth, I could have sworn it was a temple of Gaia. I know why my grandmother quit and decided she could worship from home.


2 posted on 09/24/2009 7:01:44 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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“About half (48%) of white mainline Protestants believe the earth is warming as the result of human activity — roughly the same proportion as among all Americans (47%) —”

Just another example that 45-50% of Americans are intellectually lazy(ignorant) or stupid.


3 posted on 09/24/2009 7:05:39 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: presidio9
The unaffiliated (58%) are the most likely to say there is solid evidence the earth is warming because of human activity.

A man who ceases to believe in God does not believe in nothing; he believes in anything.

- G.K. Chesterton, Orthodoxy

4 posted on 09/24/2009 7:06:28 AM PDT by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: presidio9

I agree — the summary you posted seems to allow for only two scenarios:

(1) Earth is warming, and it is warming because of human activity
(2) Earth is not warming.

I believe
(3) Earth *was* warming due to sun spot cycles, and is now cooling for the same reason.


5 posted on 09/24/2009 7:06:54 AM PDT by TennesseeProfessor
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To: presidio9
What about Latinos with mustaches? What percent of them blame man?

Stupid polls Dot COM

6 posted on 09/24/2009 7:07:48 AM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

I don’t doubt climate change. That’s what the climate does. What I do doubt is the effect the warming alarmists claim we’re having.

The global warming alarmists should move to the moon. The climate never changes there.


7 posted on 09/24/2009 7:09:24 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: presidio9

There is a maxim in science that says

“correlation does not equal causation.”

Many scientists seem to have forgotten this. Just because CO2 levels are fluctuating along with industrial growth doesn’t mean that humanity is the cause. The Earth’s climate is incredibly tough and has resisted natural CO2 outputs that dwarf anything that humanity could ever produce. There was even a volcano that covered the whole planet in ash!


8 posted on 09/24/2009 7:09:54 AM PDT by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: presidio9

In a related story, Kool Aid sales have gone through the roof.


9 posted on 09/24/2009 7:10:17 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (I don't remember Americans being called "racists" when we fought against Hillarycare.)
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If CO2 was as much of a driver of global temperature as the fear-mongers would have us believe, the earth’s temperature would have sky-rocketed out of control billions of years ago. There is no way it is nearly as a significant factor as the global warming models assume. It is probably that it is a factor, but it is absolutely impossible that it is that significant. It is now becoming an undeniable fact that sun spot activity is a much larger driver than believed. Global Warming models pretty much ignore sun spots completely, when in fact they have a much great influence than CO2. I don’t believe an honest scientist can buy into the global warming theory as currently being propagated.


10 posted on 09/24/2009 7:12:47 AM PDT by Always Right (Obama owes Joe Willson an apology!!!)
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Of those who believe in man-made global warming:

How many are willing to sacrifice American jobs on the alter of “global warming” as China, India and other countries completely ignore the issue, and continue to promote THEIR industry, at the expense of the United States?

How many support higher taxes on American families, as a way to address this issue?

11 posted on 09/24/2009 7:14:12 AM PDT by Kansas58
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100% of people capable of rational thought agree that the earth has been cooling for a decade and that all the AGW computer models have failed miserably.

Also, Ice Core samples show that increased CO2 levels in the past have followed increases in temperature, not the other way around.


12 posted on 09/24/2009 7:18:03 AM PDT by NavVet ("You Lie!")
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The anti-social conservative crowd are naturally the most liberal on this question.

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13 posted on 09/24/2009 7:44:00 AM PDT by ansel12
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Notice how my (correct) response to this poll is not “What the heck is wrong with Protestants for being so susceptible to the latest propaganda from the socialist-pagan-pseudoscientific alliance?” Instead, I recognized the polling questions for what they were; biased, unprofessional, and unreliable. You could learn a lot from me.
14 posted on 09/24/2009 7:52:22 AM PDT by presidio9 ("Don't shoot. Let 'em burn.")
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To: presidio9

What are you talking about? That had nothing to do with my post.


15 posted on 09/24/2009 7:56:54 AM PDT by ansel12
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Not stupid questions. The research is from Pew. Designed purposefully to paint evangelicals as enemies of a rational state. The data will be cited repeatedly by MSM and talking-point liberals and activists as proof that the ‘voices’ of opponents of state-ism are to be disregarded.
It's like the Arabs saying Jews eat children...on a lighter scale. The target audience is the moo people. Inspiration to disregard...at least....or do righteous violence against...at worst....evangelicals; and/or to paint ANY ‘denier’ as a religious idiot who believes in Santa.
16 posted on 09/24/2009 8:06:26 AM PDT by dasboot
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To: ansel12
You could learn a lot from me.

Perhaps you did. I'm not here to browbeat you. You've learned how to correctly disregard unscientific polls when they disagree with the facts. If you can do the same thing when they support your opinions, I'll consider my work done here.

17 posted on 09/24/2009 8:09:54 AM PDT by presidio9 ("Don't shoot. Let 'em burn.")
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I can’t believe that you are dragging old business to this thread. You said that you didn’t ask “What the heck is wrong with Protestants for being so susceptible to the latest propaganda from the socialist-pagan-pseudoscientific alliance?” Well how could you?

When you add up Protestants and Catholics, Protestants still come out as more conservative on this question, so the question would be “What the heck is wrong with Catholics for being so susceptible to the latest propaganda from the socialist-pagan-pseudoscientific alliance?”.

Look at the chart and then combine percentages and then try to imagine if we add Hispanics.


18 posted on 09/24/2009 8:26:08 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

You came into my life, and continued to argue the same incorrect point for three weeks. In the fase of irrefutable evidence to the contrary. Supported entirely by data from MSNBC. When you went away, I had a headache, and I felt like a small chunk of my life had been stolen from me, never to return. I hoped you were going away forever, but here you are back again. Posting to me, and barging into my life.

My point remains that virtually all of these polls are meaningless and unscientific, as it is impossible to phrase questions like this properly. I had hoped by your initial response that you had finally grasped this concept, but alas it appears that you still allow your personal intolerance for other religions to cloud your views. You couldn’t help yourself.

The fact that I avoided making an observation about any specific religious group based on the bogus results of this poll was an indication of how meaningless they are. It offers four possibilies for a postive answer, but only one (definitive) “no” answer. I could care less if Protestants believe in Global Warming more or less than Catholics. Or Jews. Or Muslims. Or Buddists. Or Jedis for that matter. But you’re enough of a creep that you couldn’t help yourself. For you, everything is about categorizing your own beliefs against those of others: “There is a higher percentage of adulterers among Catholics than in my own religion. Therefore...”

I’ve got news for you: God could care less about things like this. He’s got bigger fish to fry.

Unfortunately, in this case, you were so quick to attack Catholicism that you got your facts wrong: The answers of “Catholics” and “Protestants” are statistically the same. And that’s disregarding the fact that we established earlier: It is totally impossible for a pollster to differentiate actual Catholics from non-Catholics who claim to be Catholic (as this poll is trying to do). Or were you just defending Evangelicals?

You need to get something through your head: Not everbody thinks like you. Two of my four grandparents were Protestant. On was Lutheran, one was Presbyterian. The were both active in their churches. They were both politically conservative, and strong Christians. I have nothing against any other faith. Even yours. Tearing down another’s faith won’t make my own stronger. Some day you’ll figure that one out. Actual Catholics, the ones who except the totality of Church teaching (including the parts about abortion) are almost exclusively Conservative.


19 posted on 09/24/2009 11:59:03 AM PDT by presidio9 ("Don't shoot. Let 'em burn.")
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The answers of “Catholics” and “Protestants” are statistically the same.

No they aren't, the deep conservatism of the white Evangelicals and in this case the black Protestants make up for the four point difference between the White Catholics and the White mainline Protestants, and they don't even mention Hispanics.

20 posted on 09/24/2009 6:55:06 PM PDT by ansel12
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