[[Unfortunately, no one really knows whether it’s true. At the end of the day, it is simply a faith statement. For the non-existence of causes other than natural ones has never been shown; I doubt it can be shown.]]
I gotta dissagree a bit here- there is enough evidence to show the need for an intelligence- enough evidence to present a strong ‘beyond reasonable doubt’ case- We know nature isn’t capable of the foresight and anticipation seen in the compelxity of Metainformation, and it certainly couldn’t arise from chemicals- hence I think it can be quite strongly shown that an intellgient Designer capable of anticipating and planning was needed. Can we show the actual designer? No- but I think we can show His handiwork to a degree that creates a strong beyond reasonable doubt conclusion that an omniscient Designer was needed
>>Can we show the actual designer? No- but I think we can show His handiwork to a degree that creates a strong beyond reasonable doubt conclusion that an omniscient Designer was needed<<
Do, I once again offer you the opportunity to show how to place an intelligent designer into any — ANY — scientific process, theorem, axiom or even hypothesis. Do we start the process, then burn incense? Rub blue mud into our navels? If we can’t directly affect nor predict the results based in materialistic rules then there is no point to science (I will break it to the tens of millions of scientists on the planet that they might as well just go join The Church Of The Intelligent Designer and ask Deep Thought to make things happen the way they would like).
Once again, just a modicum of knowledge about science would serve you and your ilk well.
You’re pretty funny so I look forward to another sloppy and lazy response.
Just repeating myself a bit here, CottShop! To put it another way, all I was saying is that no one has ever shown (or demonstrated) that all causes in nature MUST be "natural" ones. There is apparent intelligence at work in nature. From what I understand of methodological naturalism, intelligence would not be a "natural" cause, since it has no material basis.
You wrote:
We know nature isn’t capable of the foresight and anticipation seen in the complexity of Metainformation, and it certainly couldn’t arise from chemicals— hence I think it can be quite strongly shown that an intelligent Designer capable of anticipating and planning was needed.Sounds perfectly reasonable to me, dear CottShop!
Thank you ever so much for writing!