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Creationists Given Academic Credit for Trolling
Via LGF ^ | 8/10/09 | Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary

Posted on 09/24/2009 6:08:52 AM PDT by xcamel

William Dembski, the “intelligent design” creationist who is a professor in philosophy at Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary in Fort Worth, Texas, has some rather interesting requirements for students of his creationism courses — 20% of their final grade comes from having written 10 posts promoting ID on “hostile” websites: Academic Year 2009-2010.

Spring 2009

Intelligent Design (SOUTHERN EVANGELICAL SEMINARY #AP 410, 510, and 810; May 11 – 16, 2009)

NEW! THE DUE DATE FOR ALL WORK IN THIS COURSE IS AUGUST 14, 2009. Here’s what you will need to do to wrap things up:

AP410 — This is the undegrad [sic] course. You have three things to do: (1) take the final exam (worth 40% of your grade); (2) write a 3,000-word essay on the theological significance of intelligent design (worth 40% of your grade); (3) provide at least 10 posts defending ID that you’ve made on “hostile” websites, the posts totalling 2,000 words, along with the URLs (i.e., web links) to each post (worth 20% of your grade).

AP510 — This is the masters course. You have four things to do: (1) take the final exam (worth 30% of your grade); (2) write a 1,500- to 2,000-word critical review of Francis Collins’s The Language of God — for instructions, see below (20% of your grade); (3) write a 3,000-word essay on the theological significance of intelligent design (worth 30% of your grade); (4) provide at least 10 posts defending ID that you’ve made on “hostile” websites, the posts totalling 3,000 words, along with the URLs (i.e., web links) to each post (worth 20% of your grade).


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To: xcamel

did u actually read the post?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2347175/posts?page=49#49

Are u disagreeing with leading evolutionist Sir Julian Huxley, a primary architect of modern neo-Darwinism? Huxley called evolution a “Religion Without Revelation”


61 posted on 09/24/2009 8:23:29 AM PDT by FreedomProtector
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To: xcamel
evolution is not 'faith'

He chanted.

62 posted on 09/24/2009 8:23:38 AM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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To: Mojave

Nice misquote... care to try again?


63 posted on 09/24/2009 8:30:51 AM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: FreedomProtector

One person... hmmm.. So I guess I should paint you with the beliefs of Fred Waldron Phelps, after all he believes in creation too...


64 posted on 09/24/2009 8:36:02 AM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: xcamel
You were claiming that evolution is not faith. Don't pretend otherwise.
65 posted on 09/24/2009 8:37:01 AM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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To: xcamel

Regardless of the suject matter, it seems ethically questionable for a college professor to author a theory, and then impose an academic requiremnt on students of his classes that they publicly defend and promogulate that theory.


66 posted on 09/24/2009 8:38:14 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: xcamel
One person... hmmm..

"...leading evolutionist Sir Julian Huxley..."

hmmm..

67 posted on 09/24/2009 8:38:38 AM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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To: dirtboy; xcamel; steve-b; GodGunsGuts
Like I said, you do have a problem in grasping logic. You and xcamel come in here to insult creationists and you say things about them behind their backs, yet you say you've seen no problem in xcamel's posts being rude.

That is true. There are a few Evos who do engage in intellectual discussion and those discussions can be enlightening, but guys like xcamel and steve-b seem to be content to simply ridicule rather than engage in honest debate.

And they call creationists "trolls".

68 posted on 09/24/2009 8:38:52 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Mojave
They forgot "...leading dead evolutionist Sir Julian Huxley..."
69 posted on 09/24/2009 8:57:15 AM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: P-Marlowe

“Enlightening” is what way exactly?

Like those who debate the various spells in Harry Potter books?


70 posted on 09/24/2009 8:59:31 AM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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“Enlightening” is what way exactly? Like those who debate the various spells in Harry Potter books?

It's kinda pathological with you, isn't it?

Do you hate all Christians, or just those who believe in God?

71 posted on 09/24/2009 9:07:56 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe

Have you stopped beating your children?

It does seem to be one of those ‘biblical mandates’...


72 posted on 09/24/2009 9:10:32 AM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: xcamel
Have you stopped beating your children?

Yes. They grew up.

Can't say the same about you.


73 posted on 09/24/2009 9:12:20 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: xcamel
They forgot "...leading dead evolutionist Sir Julian Huxley..."

Darwin is dead. What's your point?

74 posted on 09/24/2009 9:13:26 AM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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To: Mojave; P-Marlowe
You both seem to have advanced degrees in logical fallacy.
How Quaint.
75 posted on 09/24/2009 9:20:23 AM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: xcamel
provide at least 10 posts defending ID that you’ve made on “hostile” websites

What you call trolling, others would call DEBATING. You can learn a lot by posting your own arguments and reading the response of people who disagree with you. As long as you are respectful and present a logical, defensible case for what you belief, I see no reason why you should call that trolling.

The premise of the original post is that hostile websites are only for "friendly" posters (i.e., those who always agree with you). Why should that be ? That will be true only if the moderator says it should be so. If the forum ALLOWS dissenting opinions, that should not be considered trolling.
76 posted on 09/24/2009 9:24:58 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: xcamel
They forgot "...leading dead evolutionist Sir Julian Huxley..."

Darwin is dead. What's your point?

You do have a point, don't you?

77 posted on 09/24/2009 9:38:52 AM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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To: P-Marlowe; dirtboy

LOL...I’m actually kind of flattered :o) Let the little hens cluck.

All the best to you and yours—GGG


78 posted on 09/24/2009 9:41:50 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: FreedomProtector

Good post, Freedom. Thanks.

Although it has been said many times that the explanation of the first life form is not within the realm of evolution, it is, in my opinion, the holy grail that must be overcome if it can.

To my knowledge, which I don’t claim to be vast, there is no credible explanation for how the first life arose by naturalistic means.


79 posted on 09/24/2009 9:54:29 AM PDT by Mudtiger
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To: xcamel; Mojave; GodGunsGuts
You both seem to have advanced degrees in logical fallacy.

I have studied logical fallcies, but I don't have a degree in them.

It does appear however, from my studies of logical fallacies and my observation of your posts, that you use them quite often and your favorite, argumentum ad hominem appears to be the only method of debate you have used so far on this thread.

80 posted on 09/24/2009 9:58:21 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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