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General's Review Creates Rupture
Washington Post ^ | 9/22/2009 | Karen DeYoung

Posted on 09/22/2009 4:57:36 AM PDT by Saije

Gen. Stanley A. McChrystal's grim assessment of the Afghanistan war has opened a divide between the military, which is pushing for an early decision to send more troops, and civilian policymakers who are increasingly doubtful of an escalating nation-building effort.

Senior military officials emphasized Monday that McChrystal's conclusion that the U.S. effort in Afghanistan "will likely result in failure" without an urgent infusion of troops has been endorsed by the uniformed leadership. That includes Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Mike Mullen and Gen. David H. Petraeus, the head of U.S. Central Command and architect of the troop "surge" strategy widely seen as helping U.S. forces turn the corner in Iraq.

But before any decision is made, some of President Obama's civilian advisers have proposed looking at other, less costly options to address his primary goal of preventing al-Qaeda from reestablishing itself in Afghanistan. Those options include a redirection of U.S. efforts -- away from protecting the Afghan population and building the Afghan state and toward persuading the Taliban to stop fighting -- as well as an escalation of targeted attacks against al-Qaeda itself in Pakistan and elsewhere.

The commander's report, administration officials said, is only one of many "inputs" the president is considering. Others include assessments from the State Department, the intelligence community and his White House advisers.

Obama's decision is complicated by a deepening domestic political divide and no guarantee of success whichever option he chooses. One observer, characterizing the president's dilemma at its most extreme, said: "He can send more troops and it will be a disaster and he will destroy the Democratic Party. Or he can send no more troops and it will be a disaster and the Republicans will say he lost the war."

McChrystal assessment: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/09/21/AR2009092100110.html?hpid=topnews

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; assessment; obama; war
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Yeah, Obama really needs to see what the CIA has to say, just as soon as they get back from meeting with their lawyers over this whole torture investigation.
1 posted on 09/22/2009 4:57:36 AM PDT by Saije
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I wonder when the exodus from the upper ranks of our military will begin.

I’m not looking forward to it. We need those guys.

But it appears inevitable. Hope one or more of ‘em writes a good book about just how effed up this CinC is.


2 posted on 09/22/2009 5:03:41 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
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A military coupe in progress against the Obama Junta?

Dios Mios, I would applaud it.

3 posted on 09/22/2009 5:04:43 AM PDT by Candor7 (The effective weapons against Fascism are ridicule, derision, and truth (Member NRA)
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A military coupe in progress against the Obama Junta?

Some serious signals are being sent, aren't they?

4 posted on 09/22/2009 5:05:25 AM PDT by paulycy (Screw the RACErs.)
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To: Saije

I hope the General has his “retirement” papers in order. I wonder how long it will take for the administration thugs to force him out...not long, I’ll bet.


5 posted on 09/22/2009 5:07:55 AM PDT by GoldenPup
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To: Saije

Obama is FROZEN because he only wants to hurt
America with first ObamaCARE Death Panels, and then
the evisceration of the military.

The ObamaCARE Death Panels are up now, so he does not
want to pi$$ off anyone just yet. Delay. Delay even
as the American troops are threatened by his delay.


6 posted on 09/22/2009 5:09:53 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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To: GoldenPup

IF the General doesn’t get what he needs,he should resign.


7 posted on 09/22/2009 5:10:17 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: Dr. Ursus

In the past under conditions where O has had to take a stand he has voted “PRESENT.”

It seems he is keeping up with tradition...


8 posted on 09/22/2009 5:14:47 AM PDT by nj patriot (Gore is beyond help.... Snakes in the head.)
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To: nj patriot

While America was ready for an African-American president, clearly this African-American was not ready to be president.


9 posted on 09/22/2009 5:17:39 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Is it too soon for real conservatives to launch a "We Tried to Warn You Tour"?)
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To: Saije
This guerrilla war now in Afghanistan cannot be won by traditional means unless we turn the military loose to also chase AQ and the Taliban into Pakistan to destroy them. Otherwise, we need to pull our troops out and fight the war covertly.

From what I've been told by returning vets from there, most Afghanis want the easiest out concerning all circumstances and will side with the highest payer.

IOW, they do not give a flying leap either way.

10 posted on 09/22/2009 5:19:33 AM PDT by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: paulycy
Yes, very serious signals, likely supported by INTEL from the CIA.

Like I said, I would applaud it if it happened, as long as we had another presidential election in Nov. 2010.

11 posted on 09/22/2009 5:24:15 AM PDT by Candor7 (The effective weapons against Fascism are ridicule, derision, and truth (Member NRA)
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To: Nervous Tick

I volunteered to serve in the U.S. Marine Corps.Would I volunteer under Obama? ABSOLUTELY NOT!


12 posted on 09/22/2009 5:35:02 AM PDT by ardara
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To: Saije

For political gain, Obama chose to make an escalation in troops in the Afghan conflict a centerpiece of his election campaign. But he never really wanted to have anything to do with Afghanistan. He just wanted to use it as a club to beat up on Bush.

Now, in the words of one of Obama’s mentors, “ the chickens have come home to roost”.

We could annihilate the Taliban in Afghanistan, if the dogs of war were unleashed. But Obama is not going to permit that, I fear. And if not, either we just get the heck out and secure the border so the Taliban is constrained, or we face another Vietnam. Hate to see it.


13 posted on 09/22/2009 5:53:23 AM PDT by randita (Release ALL the ACORN video now or risk having it deep sixed by Holder.)
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To: Saije

Has there been more incompetence in the White House since Lyndon Johnson and Jimmy Carter? Not a chance. American soldiers die while Emperor Obama votes Present. Actually he is looking for some concession to give the Taliban so they will like us better and he will get even more rave reviews in the dying, anti military, anti American media.


14 posted on 09/22/2009 6:15:18 AM PDT by Bulldawg Fan (Victory is the last thing Murtha and his fellow Defeatists want.)
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To: Saije

WOW, talk about talking the eye off the ball. This isn’t about appeasing the Democrats or the Republicans. IT’S ABOUT THE SAFETY OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE WORLD!!


15 posted on 09/22/2009 8:27:02 AM PDT by Freddd (Government run health care=paying more and being denied what we already have.)
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To: Candor7
A military coupe in progress against the Obama Junta?

I hope so, never would I have thought I would say that.

16 posted on 09/22/2009 8:30:07 AM PDT by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: Saije
Where have I seen this before? Oh, wait,... I think I remember.

That worked so well, too...


17 posted on 09/22/2009 9:04:10 AM PDT by Gritty (In Obamaland where truth is dead, muscle power becomes the operative standard of speech-Doug Giles)
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To: Saije
fleeing Saigon
18 posted on 09/22/2009 9:23:30 AM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (Sarah Palin is our Iron Lady of the North)
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To: Saije

We are in a very bad situation. Either we loose Afghanistan, or spend a lot more blood and money there and probably loose anyway.


19 posted on 09/22/2009 6:10:53 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum

Get all women and children and innocents out and easy go oven bake nuke em.


20 posted on 09/22/2009 6:14:02 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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