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Muslims mass-producing children to take over Africa, says Archbishop
London Times ^ | 9/20/09 | Ruth Gledhill

Posted on 09/20/2009 9:35:24 PM PDT by pissant

One of the most powerful figures in the Anglican Church believes that Africa is under attack from Islam and that Muslims are “mass-producing” children to take over communities on the continent.

Archbishop Nicholas Okoh, 56, was elected Primate of Nigeria last week and his elevation could exacerbate tensions at a time when Anglicans are working to build bridges with Muslims. Dr Michael Nazir-Ali resigned as Bishop of Rochester earlier this year to work in countries where Islam is the majority religion.

Nigeria is split almost half and half between Christianity and Islam. There are about 17 million practising Anglicans in the country, but they face persecution in the north, while the two faiths vie with local religions for supremacy in the rest of the country.

Archbishop Okoh made his controversial comments about Islam in a sermon in Beckenham, Kent, in July. He said that there was a determined Islamic attack in African countries such as Uganda, Kenya and Rwanda.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: africa; africanchristians; cockroaches; mhmmdnsm09202009; muslimworld; trop
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Good to see a few men with balls left in the Anglican church.
1 posted on 09/20/2009 9:35:24 PM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant

Africa first, then Europe. Asia, Russia, and the US will be difficult for them, but Mussies are showing considerable patience and long-term thinking.


2 posted on 09/20/2009 9:41:09 PM PDT by alancarp (Obama: treat the unborn with AT LEAST as much respect as you do terrorists!!)
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But isn’t the rest of Africa “mass-producing” children as well?


3 posted on 09/20/2009 9:42:17 PM PDT by Julia H. (Freedom of speech and freedom from criticism are mutually exclusive.)
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To: pissant

No one can deny the truth of that statement. Thats what Islam does.

I can’t believe he’s from the Anglican Church. Go man, tell it like it is!


4 posted on 09/20/2009 9:42:54 PM PDT by Jeb21 (www.jewsagainstobama.com)
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Ha ha, hilarious. This archbishop is an idiot. Doesn’t he realize that the Muslims are just doing what a society does normally. The Christians have stopped reproducing. I guess it is their vote that they don’t want to continue. Why isn’t he telling his flock to be fruitful and multiply?


5 posted on 09/20/2009 9:43:19 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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How many wives does a Christian get to procreate with. Osama bin Laden has 30 something kids.


6 posted on 09/20/2009 9:45:09 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Jeb21

I can deny the truth of the statement. Of all the things one could criticize Muslims for, it’s not following natural law and having children. If the Christians in Nigeria don’t think Christian culture should continue, then they shouldn’t have children. Apparently, they aren’t. Which is not the Muslims fault. Maybe the Archbishop should teach Christianity to his flock, instead of chastising the Muslims in his country for being better Christians, than the Christians are. I guess it’s easier to whine, then to do the right thing. And this bishop is whining, instead of following his religion.


7 posted on 09/20/2009 9:49:29 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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A Christian man can do fine procreating with one wife. The problem is low fertility rates, not lack of polygamy. For most Muslim men, polygamy isn't an option, even if they are allowed to do it. Do you have any figures on polygamy in Nigeria?

I have heard bin laden has many children, but I've how they turned out, or what the real story is.

8 posted on 09/20/2009 9:53:56 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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The irony -- and the idiocy -- of the whole matter is that Islam by its very nature is culturally dysfunctional and can't stand on its own. If it weren't for its interaction with countries that have historically Christian roots you'd never even hear about it.

The ultimate symbol of Islam's limitations is a Saudi sheikh who p!sses oil but can only buy things like Mercedes-Benz cars and Boeing or Airbus jumbo jets.

9 posted on 09/20/2009 9:54:51 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (God is great, beer is good . . . and people are crazy.)
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Perhaps we need a gov’t program to up our population size by increasing reproduction.

parsy, who is willing to do his part, as long as he don’t have to get married again


10 posted on 09/20/2009 10:01:46 PM PDT by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: pissant
I found out that the ultimate purpose of Islam - according to Islam - is to await the return of Jesus Christ (not Mohammed, amazingly enough).

Wouldn't it be interesting if billions of Muslims were poised to take over the world, and Jesus returned?

11 posted on 09/20/2009 10:13:16 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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What happens to the 12th Iman?


12 posted on 09/20/2009 10:17:54 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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What happens to the 12th Iman?

Jesus comes with him. As far as I can understand, they believe Jesus will be the Divine authority, and the 12th Imam will be the temporal authority (king).

13 posted on 09/20/2009 10:22:47 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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I have been studying Biblical prophesy for many years. I have come to the conclusion that the 'beast' of Revelation is Islam. And if that is true, and it certainly appears that it is, then Islam WILL engulf the world... but for a short season. About 7 years or so. And Revelation doesn't talk about the 'saints' being beheaded for nothing. Expect a person to arise, called the Mahdi, who will be the head of the coming Caliphate. I call him the 'antichrist'...yes, that same guy who makes everyone take the 'mark' or face death. Yes, everyone who does not convert to Islam will face the dull steak knife.

They will take over by numbers. The silent Jihad. Then they have the ability to take over the vote in a host democracy. The host democracy becomes afraid and capitulates to their every religious demand. When their numbers become overwhelmingly large, then they obliterate anything in their path until their goal of total submission to 'allah' is acheived.

This is an entire discussion to BIG to post here... but this is just a nugget.

14 posted on 09/20/2009 10:26:47 PM PDT by BigFinn (islam= a caustic blend of paganism and twisted Bible stories resulting in death and mayhem.)
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Oh yes. They do believe that 'prophet' Jesus (Isa) will return but he will be Madhi's little helper and executioner. He will convert all to Islam and 'break all the crosses'. He will also stop the 'jizya' tax (that tax that all dhimmi infidels must pay) which means that you will either convert to Islam or face that dull steak knife. Wow, no more taxes... what a concept.

Joking aside... The real Jesus warned us a long time ago to not accept any 'messiah' coming out of the 'desert or some inner room'... that guy will be a false prophet. Albeit a deadly one. So if you see Jesus (Isa) coming from the Damascus or someplace in Iran... don't believe it. That guy will be bad business.

The real Jesus will come to the mount of Olives.

15 posted on 09/20/2009 10:36:31 PM PDT by BigFinn (islam= a caustic blend of paganism and twisted Bible stories resulting in death and mayhem.)
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The real Jesus will come to the mount of Olives.

I know of Jesus's warnings about false prophets, but does he actually specify a physical location where he will return?

16 posted on 09/20/2009 10:40:40 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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You can’t build a bridge if the other side won’t reciprocate.


17 posted on 09/20/2009 10:41:53 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.")
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To: Talisker

Zechariah 14:4
On that day his feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, east of Jerusalem, and the Mount of Olives will be split in two from east to west, forming a great valley, with half of the mountain moving north and half moving south.


18 posted on 09/20/2009 10:44:46 PM PDT by BigFinn (islam= a caustic blend of paganism and twisted Bible stories resulting in death and mayhem.)
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“How many wives does a Christian get to procreate with. Osama bin Laden has 30 something kids.”

You make a good point, but if you extrapolate for a few generations, it breaks down. Henry has 10 wives; five boys, five girls. The five girls all get married, but only one of the boys gets a wife. The other four become lost boys, I don’t know, but they don’t get a harem.

The five married girls can only have so many kids during their fertile years. It will be half boys and half girls; so the cycle continues.

I think the key to exploding your population is not polygamy, but reproducing at a higher than replacement rate.

Like the Duggars! And several friends of mine.


19 posted on 09/20/2009 10:53:56 PM PDT by Marie2 (The second mouse gets the cheese.)
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Zechariah 14:4

That's a powerful quote specifically describing a mighty battle for the whole world, as when Zechariah 14:9 says: "The LORD will be king over the whole earth. On that day there will be one LORD, and his name the only name."

But I don't know that this indicates the Second Coming, because Zechariah 14:16-19 goes on to say: "Then the survivors from all the nations that have attacked Jerusalem will go up year after year to worship the King, the LORD Almighty, and to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles. 17 If any of the peoples of the earth do not go up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD Almighty, they will have no rain. 18 If the Egyptian people do not go up and take part, they will have no rain. The LORD [d] will bring on them the plague he inflicts on the nations that do not go up to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles. 19 This will be the punishment of Egypt and the punishment of all the nations that do not go up to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles."

However, after the Armageddon of the Second Coming, there should be no "attacking survivors" left, since the Kingdom of God would be at hand. So perhaps this Zechariah reference is talking about another time?

20 posted on 09/20/2009 10:57:36 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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