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Metro Delivers Hundreds of Thousands to 9/12 Rally
The Foundry, Heritage Foundation ^ | September 15, 2009

Posted on 09/20/2009 6:10:19 AM PDT by gusopol3

Metro Delivers Hundreds of Thousands to 9/12 Rally Posted September 15th, 2009 at 4.58pm in Ongoing Priorities.

Much has been made over the attendance at the march and rally in DC on September 12. Reports varied, with many on the left clinging to an unofficial DC Fire Department estimate of 60,000 to 70,000. Some reports from overseas went as far as to say two million. However, one completely objective source of information is the number of people who rode Metro, Washington, DC’s mass transit subway system. Washington Metro measures and releases its ridership numbers and these numbers have been used in the past to judge the size of major events in Washington, DC.

For a fair comparison, we looked at the Saturday after Labor Day in 2008, which is when September 12 fell in 2009. On September 12, 2009, 437,624 rode metro rail. By comparison, on the Saturday after Labor Day in 2008, 202,528 rode. The difference is 235,096. Even if nobody else came to the March, and we know they did by chartered bus and by carpool, the theory that only 70,000 people were there is off by roughly 335% - debunking the 70,000 claim. To take it a step further for comparison, we also looked at the attendance for President Obama’s Inauguration in January 2009. Convential wisdom estimates that attendance for the inaugural was between 800,000 and 1.8 million, or an average of 1.3 million. If you compare Metro riders on Martin Luther King Day 2008, the similarly situated federal holiday in January to the Inauguration in 2009, approximately 975,000 additional people rode metro for the Inauguration. If you compare 975,000 additional metro riders as a percentage of the 1.3 million total who attended and you do the same for 235,000 additional metro riders for the 9/12 March, than at least 313,000 went downtown for the explicit purpose of marching against out-of-control government spending on September 12. This assumes a similar percentage of attendees took buses, cabs, drove in, walked, etc.

If you believe the number was 1.8 million at the Inauguration and you do the same for 9/12, then the number is 433,000. So is an estimate of 313,000 to 433,000 attendees accurate? Well, it is certainly an unbiased and impartial start to understanding the debate over crowd size. The bottom line is that hundreds of thousands of Americans who were upset with government spending, a failed stimulus, a government takeover of health care, and a massive energy tax came with their parents, children, grandparents, cousins, college roommates, etc. to a multi-generational and peaceful family protest in Washington.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 912; 912rally; aar; dcmetro; marchondc; metro; rally; ridership; teaparty
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To: Vor Lady

Good point! And another news item not known by the ‘news’ media.


61 posted on 09/20/2009 5:11:05 PM PDT by maica (Politics is not about facts. it is about what politicians can get people to believe. - Thomas Sowell)
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To: Freee-dame

Ping and testing my new tagline


62 posted on 09/20/2009 5:22:09 PM PDT by maica (Freedom consists not in doing what we like,but in having the right to do what we ought. John Paul II)
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To: gusopol3

Most excellent!


63 posted on 09/20/2009 5:23:16 PM PDT by GVnana (Sarah for America)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

First I’ve heard of the “Can you hear us now” demonstration. Hope it gets more attention.


64 posted on 09/20/2009 6:29:43 PM PDT by EverOnward
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To: EverOnward

Send the link to everyone you can.


65 posted on 09/20/2009 6:53:05 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; ...
Excerpt from The Heritage Foundation article:

For a fair comparison, we looked at the Saturday after Labor Day in 2008, which is when September 12 fell in 2009. On September 12, 2009, 437,624 rode metro rail. By comparison, on the Saturday after Labor Day in 2008, 202,528 rode. The difference is 235,096. Even if nobody else came to the March, and we know they did by chartered bus and by carpool, the theory that only 70,000 people were there is off by roughly 335% - debunking the 70,000 claim...

66 posted on 09/21/2009 9:59:45 PM PDT by nutmeg (Obamunism is destroying America)
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To: gusopol3

Someone forwarded me an e-mail from the Fire Department that says they do not make crowd estimates. So BOR lied about this.


67 posted on 09/21/2009 10:05:06 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: WashingtonSource
I took the Metro at Ballston station. The platforms were packed with demonsrators headed to the March. When the train pulled into the station, it was packed with protestors, who cheered the people on the platform, when the doors opened. This was repeated at every station all the way to Metro Center. Only a few people got off. The Metro was really part of the demonstration.

I heard this same story about the Metro stations on 9/12 over and over from callers on Rush's show, Hannity's and on our local conservative talk show host's (Jim Vicevich) show in Hartford, CT.

My husband and I were there. We drove down from CT, and were lucky to find a "cheap" rate at a nearby Holiday Inn, so we walked to Freedom Plaza. As you may know, the march was supposed to step off from Freedom Plaza at 11:30am, but because the area - and the nearby Metro stations - were SO overwhelmed with people - the DC police told the March organizers to step off at least an hour earlier.

9/12 was exhilarating! My husband estimates the crowd at around 400,000-600,000. I say there were close to a million...

68 posted on 09/21/2009 10:05:15 PM PDT by nutmeg (Obamunism is destroying America)
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To: nutmeg

Bump!


69 posted on 09/21/2009 10:06:08 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Vor Lady
On 9/12 I rode the blue line to Federal Triangle, arriving about 9:15 am. There were so many in the station that the metro police/workers opened the turnstyles to get us out as quickly as possible so other trains could come in. We didn't use our farecards, so I'm betting we weren't counted.

Very interesting... wow.

I was there on 9/12, and I would swear there were close to a million people in DC. It was truly amazing...

70 posted on 09/21/2009 10:08:57 PM PDT by nutmeg (Obamunism is destroying America)
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To: TheRightGuy; Vor Lady
Thousands got through uncounted by Metro at just that one station alone.

Your story matches Vor Lady's post #11 above!

71 posted on 09/21/2009 10:10:50 PM PDT by nutmeg (Obamunism is destroying America)
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To: gusopol3
Tell those idiots 'Blowhard' O'Reilly and 'Follow in Daddy's Footsteps' Wallace about this. Giving both sides is fine with me, but the obvious tilting of 'facts' now and then by these two is a REAL disappointment.

Nam Vet

72 posted on 09/21/2009 10:11:29 PM PDT by Nam Vet (Obozo (the health expert) thinks innuendo is an Italian suppository.)
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To: Always Right

See Reply 67.


73 posted on 09/21/2009 10:12:41 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: Tribune7

I was standing next to a guy who had been at the inauguration..he said it wasn’t even close..that there were so many more people at the inauguration. Just relaying a story...don’t shoot the messenger!


74 posted on 09/21/2009 10:14:54 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: sweetiepiezer
It was a great crowd, the feeling I got being there was overwhelming. God Bless them all. PRay for our county.

9/12 in DC was truly amazing. My husband and I have actually taken part in several rallies and two inaugurations (GWB) in DC (and elsewhere) since 2000, but I've never seen anything like the 9/12 March on Washington.

If there's a need for a similar rally in DC, we'll be there in a heartbeat!

75 posted on 09/21/2009 10:18:48 PM PDT by nutmeg (Obamunism is destroying America)
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To: firebrand; kristinn; BufordP
Someone forwarded me an e-mail from the Fire Department that says they do not make crowd estimates. So BOR lied about this.

Whoa, firebrand! Now that's interesting...

76 posted on 09/21/2009 10:21:02 PM PDT by nutmeg (Obamunism is destroying America)
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To: nutmeg

Wow, that’s some excellent research! Bravo, Heritage Foundation!


77 posted on 09/22/2009 1:00:09 AM PDT by Silly ("Okay, I'm getting just a little sick of this bereaved chicken-widow crap!")
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To: nutmeg; Vor Lady; All
Your story matches Vor Lady's post #11 above!

That's, of course, because it's a true story. Nevertheless, Federal Plaza was only one of several Metro stations near the start point for the march ... does anyone have a similar account from other stations nearby.

78 posted on 09/22/2009 5:15:53 AM PDT by TheRightGuy (I want MY BAILOUT ... a billion or two should do!)
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To: TheRightGuy; nutmeg; All
does anyone have a similar account from other stations nearby.

It would be very interesting to get the station by station count of ridership for 9/12. The stations most affected would probably be Federal Triangle and maybe Smithsonian, then Federal Center and Capitol South.

In any case there were lots of ticked off Americans, with no discernable leader, rallying to make their voices heard by the near deaf Congress and the self-absorbed, arrogant President.

79 posted on 09/22/2009 6:00:54 AM PDT by Vor Lady ("Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." JFK)
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To: gusopol3
Wallace initially said “hundreds of thousands” on BOR’s show... then backpedaled to “tens of thousands”.
80 posted on 09/22/2009 8:40:40 AM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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