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$10,000 Sanction Proposed Against “Birther” Lawyer (Orly Taitz)
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| September 18, 2009
| Teresa Whitaker
Posted on 09/18/2009 4:09:29 PM PDT by GoldStandard
Edited on 09/18/2009 4:48:36 PM PDT by Admin Moderator.
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Federal Judge Clay Land may have made good on his threat of sanctions against a lawyer for an army officer fighting deployment on the claim that President Barack Obama was not born in this country. In an order today Judge Land denied a motion for a Stay of Deployment for Captain Connie Rhodes, filed by Attorney Orly Taitz yesterday. The motion was filed after Judge Land threatened sanctions and dismissed the complaint calling it frivolous. Taitz has 14 days to show why a $10,000 penalty as a sanction should not be imposed against her. We tried reaching Taitz. She has not returned our calls.
In a bizarre twist, News 3 has received a copy of a letter to Judge Clay Land, written by the officer in this case, Captain Connie Rhodes. In it she writes she is shipping out to Iraq and asks the Judge to withdraw the Motion to Stay the Deployment. She denies authorizing Taitz to file on her behalf.
Related: Rhodes v MacDonald
TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; kook; obama; orly; orlytaitz; truthers
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To: null and void
The one the Founding Fathers used was from Blackstone and Vattel. They both say that NBC requires both citizenship by location of birth AND both parents (or by the most liberal interpretations, at least the father!) being citizens of the country of birth.
Really? My understanding is that Vattel expressly pointed out that the two-citizen parent rule did not apply in Great Britain (much of whose common law was incorporated into the early US cases). And Blackstone expressly adopts the location of birth approach (because, of course, his commentary was about Great Britain's law). Do you have a link to where Blackstone adopts the two-citizen parent approach?
To: null and void; Non-Sequitur
As a follow-up
Blackstone's Commentary explicitly states that a child born on British soil - of alien parents, is a "natural-born" subject:
"
The children of aliens, born here in England, are, generally speaking, natural-born subjects, and entitled to all the privileges of such. In which the constitution of France differs from ours; for there, by their jus albinatus, if a child be born of foreign parents, it is an alien."
To: BP2
Excellent thoughts and insights, especially about politicians. Freaking cowards, I would put it, not so politely or said so well. I will again quote C.S.Lewis to advantage:
Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.
C. S. Lewis
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posted on
09/19/2009 11:36:44 AM PDT
by
little jeremiah
(Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
To: OldDeckHand; null and void
And how moved was the Supreme Court by this argument? They found it so compelling that they denied certiorari (I believe three times) without comment from a single justice. Yep, that's one compelling argument. Actually, they accepted the Amicus Curiae and did have a comment on Berg's Writ of Centiorari:
"BERG CASE ORDER: THE MOTION OF BILL ANDERSON FOR LEAVE TO FILE A BRIEF A AMICUS CURIAE IS GRANTED. THE PETITION FOR A WRIT OF CENTIORARI BEFORE JUDGEMENT IS DENIED."
Notice the words "before judgement"
SCOTUS placed the case back in the hands of the lower courts.
To: BP2
Obamas acts are SO un-American, in terms of tradition and history, that he does NOT seem to have the persona of a man who was socialized or born in the United States of America.
________________
You nailed it. I have a question. In his Audacity book he refers to a man, but never mentions his name. He said he as a friend, an older man, active in civil rights movement in Chicago in the late 60’s and that he wrote a letter of recommendation for Barry to attend law school. Do you know who he is referring to?
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posted on
09/19/2009 11:38:34 AM PDT
by
mojitojoe
(Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
To: Smokin' Joe
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posted on
09/19/2009 11:39:08 AM PDT
by
little jeremiah
(Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
To: Smokin' Joe; null and void
Your comments are just topnotch. And nully’s.
It’s so pleasant to read them.
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posted on
09/19/2009 11:41:27 AM PDT
by
little jeremiah
(Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
To: BP2
To those who know the tell-tale traits, Obama fits the profile. Google "sociopath" or "anti-social" and see for yourself. The perfect criminal - no remorse and a screwed up sense of morality. Even the intense eye contact - one of the reasons he loves teleprompters.
Good obersvations as usual BP2. It was obvious to me before he got the DEMONCRAT nomination that this guy was dangerous. When I started reading about his past,(thanks to the great posters here at FR) it kept me awake at night, knowing what was in store for the country. Btw---a good thread related to your comments:
Is Obama a Narcissist? [FreeRepublic Thread]
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posted on
09/19/2009 11:44:48 AM PDT
by
Electric Graffiti
(Yonder stands your orphan with his gun)
To: mojitojoe
You nailed it. I have a question. In his Audacity book he refers to a man, but never mentions his name. He said he as a friend, an older man, active in civil rights movement in Chicago in the late 60s and that he wrote a letter of recommendation for Barry to attend law school. Do you know who he is referring to? Khalid Mansour and radical activist Percy Sutton.
To: Red Steel; OldDeckHand
"SCOTUS placed the case back in the hands of the lower courts."
Yes, SCOTUS did. Back to the Third Circuit, which has already stated, about Berg's complaint, that:
"As ably expressed by the District Court, it appears that Appellant lacks standing to challenge the election of Barack H. Obama to the Presidency of the United States. Even if Appellant possessed standing to raise the issue of President-Elect Obamas constitutional eligibility to be President, no justiciable controversy is presented, as Appellant seeks adjudication of a political question. Accordingly, Appellant has not shown a likelihood of success with respect to his appeal."
But, hey. Maybe they'll change their mind. We'll know that when they issue their ruling on October 26.
To: moonpie57; Red Steel; Kevmo; LucyT; Fred Nerks
Just pinging a few of you to moonpie’s comment.
If true - confetti and balloons time.
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posted on
09/19/2009 11:48:51 AM PDT
by
little jeremiah
(Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
To: Sibre Fan
Yes, SCOTUS did. Back to the Third Circuit, which has already stated, about Berg's complaint, that: Already stated on this thread? OldDeckHand didn't think SCOTUS commented on any of the eligibility cases but they did as I corrected him.
To: little jeremiah
That’s an interesting post about people squirming behind the scenes. ;-)
To: Sibre Fan
are, generally speaking, natural-born subjects, and entitled to all the privileges of such Generally speaking, yes. Keep reading. Blackstone also says under what circumstances that does not apply.
Specifically, when the child's parent's country lays claim to all of their citizens' children.
This is why The Empire felt perfectly justified, well within their rights, and on solid legal ground when the press ganged the New England born sons of former colonists into the Royal Navy.
Push comes to shove, mere location of birth doesn't suffice.
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posted on
09/19/2009 12:01:35 PM PDT
by
null and void
(We are now in day 241 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
To: Red Steel
OldDeckHand didn't think SCOTUS commented on any of the eligibility cases but they did as I corrected him.
SCOTUS did not "comment" on the case. You refer to the Court's use of the phrase "before judgment" as a "comment." It's not.
Granting an Amici and Denying a Writ is not commenting on the case. The reason that the order reads: "...THE PETITION FOR A WRIT OF CERTIORARI BEFORE JUDGEMENT IS DENIED." is because that's the type of writ that was filed.
Stated another way, you may file a "Writ of Certiorari" or a "Writ of Certoirari Before Judgment - which is referred to as a "Rule 11 Writ."
Look at the
SCOTUS Docket for that case:
No. 08-570
Title:
Philip J. Berg, Petitioner
v.
Barack Obama, et al.
Docketed: October 31, 2008
Lower Ct: United States Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit
Case Nos.: (08-4340)
Rule 11
Now, read Supreme Court
Rule 11:
Rule 11.
Certiorari to a United States Court of Appeals before JudgmentA petition for a writ of certiorari to review a case pending in a United States court of appeals, before judgment is entered in that court, will be granted only upon a showing that the case is of such imperative public importance as to justify deviation from normal appellate practice and to require immediate determination in this Court. See 28 U. S. C. § 2101(e).
In other words, all the Court did was correctly identify the type of writ that it was denying. It made no comment on its denial.
To: BP2
..... The Republicans in Congress know somethings up with Obama, but have been silenced with fear of reprisal from Obamas Chicago mob squad that they hold their tongue.
Where's that picture of Tutu Rambo Rahm getting in the faces of the Republican leadership because of Wilson's outburst? If they'll do this kinda crap for the cameras, imagine what is going on behind the scenes. We're in the midst of a COMMUNIST COUP. Jack booted thug leftist trying to intimidate the opposition into silence. This is only goint to get worse, as history has shown us.
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posted on
09/19/2009 12:06:21 PM PDT
by
Electric Graffiti
(Yonder stands your orphan with his gun)
To: BP2
For the defense pertinent to Sanctions by the court, I suggest Orly read this case before the court, also defending agains sanctions. Down the line, she can use case precident.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2208530/posts
Hollister v. Obama
For those of you wanting some verifiable facts within the court system, and case law, not speculation. This is a treasure trove of information.
Like Orly Taitz, Council Hemenway is not afraid of this judge, and tells him so...Worth the read.
To: Sibre Fan
"the case is of such imperative public importance as to justify deviation from normal appellate practice and to require immediate determination in this Court."
Berg skipped past the Court of Appeals for the 3rd Circuit and went directly the Supreme Court. Nonetheless, the case is pending in the 3rd circuit awaiting judgement.
To: Red Steel
Berg skipped past the Court of Appeals for the 3rd Circuit and went directly the Supreme Court.
Agreed.
Nonetheless, the case is pending in the 3rd circuit awaiting judgement.
Agreed. The 3rd Circuit Opinion should be issued Oct. 26. And, as quoted above, we have a fairly good idea how it's going to turn out based on the 3rd Circuit's prior rulings in the case.
To: Iron Munro
Ummm, about your book proposal, Iron Munroe, wealthy people do not like Obambi, I’m pretty sure of that, too. Also, Fox News hasn’t let up, at all, and they have the most viewers. Also, his donors all had to be identified to the FEC and I know that Fox News has gone over the FEC reports and not had a single complaint about campaign donations. Also, the working class unions support Obambi, much to their shame, and Orly Taitz embarasses all of us with her silly ranting. She has no intention of staying in this country. She intends to get disbarred so she can raise tons of money from people like you who hurt the cause, then she is moving permanently to Israel. Your proposed book would still fall flat.
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posted on
09/19/2009 12:42:37 PM PDT
by
Carcas
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