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Planet's Reverse Orbit a New Twist in Old Evolutionary Story
ICR News ^ | Aug 13, 2009 | Brian Thomas, M.S.

Posted on 09/18/2009 8:57:13 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

The Wide Area Search for Planets (WASP) project has discovered a planet that orbits backward, against the rotational direction of its star. Methodological naturalists think collisions or near-collisions are the causes of unusual cosmic phenomena like this. But this reverse-orbit observation adds to a growing list of astronomical features that should not exist if collisions and other random physical processes are all that could have caused them.[1]...

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1 posted on 09/18/2009 8:57:14 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: metmom; DaveLoneRanger; editor-surveyor; betty boop; Alamo-Girl; MrB; GourmetDan; Fichori; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 09/18/2009 9:01:01 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Link to real story by real scientists:

http://www.scientificamerican.com/blog/60-second-science/post.cfm?id=bizarre-planet-found-to-orbit-backw-2009-08-13


3 posted on 09/18/2009 9:04:55 AM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: GodGunsGuts

That is so racist!


4 posted on 09/18/2009 9:07:20 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: GodGunsGuts

“But this reverse-orbit observation adds to a growing list of astronomical features that should not exist if collisions and other random physical processes are all that could have caused them.”

This statement defies logic. If there were no random processes then all planets would have the same directional revolutions. Mr. Thomas again makes extraordinary leaps in logic.


5 posted on 09/18/2009 9:09:18 AM PDT by FormerRep
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To: GodGunsGuts

A wizard did it.

How about God creating a set of natural rules for the Universe and kicked things off. The randomness of the cosmos and rules of nature allows for great and interesting things to arise based off of the initial rules and conditions?

Nah, god just micromanages everything...... In other words “A Wizard did it.”


6 posted on 09/18/2009 9:09:24 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: GodGunsGuts

Thanks for the ping!


7 posted on 09/18/2009 9:10:19 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: xcamel

If I were a creationist and the Bible said they all revolved in only one direction, then I’d just have to discount this observation as flawed because it doesn’t agree with the Bible.

Meanwhile, scientists try to figure out what’s actually happening and will adjust any scientific theories as necessary to account for the new evidence.


8 posted on 09/18/2009 9:15:17 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: xcamel

Real scientists writing for “Scientific Political American?”


9 posted on 09/18/2009 9:15:23 AM PDT by DrDavid (George Orwell was an optimist.)
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To: xcamel

Interesting but not altogether unexpected considering that some of the moons in our solar system travel in retrograde orbits around their planets.

Why is a mystery for now. Personally I suppose its possible that the planet didn’t form near that star and was captured as it passed by.


10 posted on 09/18/2009 9:15:37 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: DrDavid

political being the figment of your imagination....


11 posted on 09/18/2009 9:17:22 AM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: cripplecreek

Odd you should say that - there was a new story on Drudge this morning talking about Jupiter capturing a comet in 1940’s and holding it as a moon for 12 years or so. Interesting.


12 posted on 09/18/2009 9:19:39 AM PDT by FormerRep
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To: cripplecreek

Only Triton, and it appears it was spun that way by being hit or grazed by another massive object. The Inclination is 129.812° (to the ecliptic) so it looks like it really got ‘nuged’ pretty hard...


13 posted on 09/18/2009 9:21:21 AM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: GodGunsGuts

“Midnight Express” flashback /quite obscure


14 posted on 09/18/2009 9:21:23 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("The President has borrowed more money to spend to less effect than anybody on the planet. " Steyn)
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To: xcamel; GodGunsGuts
What could happen when galaxies collide? If we're going to engage in "scientific" W.A.G., well then, let's do it!
The possibilities are amazing. Just think. Some stars are exchanged... but most continue on with their own previous galaxy.

how many collisions? what is perhaps more amazing is there are not more collisions. sort of like, how we are barreling along on this planet, rotating around our own star, while that star itself is in movement around the core of this particular galaxy in which we, our star, and our small planet reside --- all without getting 'whacked' more often than we have in the past.

A few goodly sized space rocks could ruin your whole day


15 posted on 09/18/2009 9:28:59 AM PDT by BlueDragon (A few goodly sized space rocks could ruin your whole day, even though that is what we are made of...)
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To: FormerRep

The earth captures the occasional asteroid which becomes a temporary moon for a few years. There was a story a while back about a small asteroid orbiting the earth outside the moon’s orbit. It travels with us for a few months or years until thrown off on its own way.

Friction doesn’t apply in space so something caught in a gravity well will orbit in a direction that results from its own inbound trajectory. There is all kinds of stuff floating in space between the stars, there’s no reason to believe there couldn’t be nomadic planets floating through space.


16 posted on 09/18/2009 9:29:51 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: GraceG

Hey, it just happened all by itself.

No inteligence required.

Just a fantastic accident.

Yea, right.

I am but a worm.


17 posted on 09/18/2009 9:34:02 AM PDT by tractorman
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To: BlueDragon

A few possibilities for technological life in those relatively dustless lanes about half-way out.


18 posted on 09/18/2009 9:39:18 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: cripplecreek; xcamel

My first thought, when reading Brian’s story, was that the planet probably didn’t have the kind of mostly-round orbit you’d expect from one in a “natural” orbit formed from an accretion disk. And sure enough, the SciAm piece describes it as a “long elliptical orbit”—exactly what I’d expect if the planet’s orbit was affected by some outside force. Which makes me wonder: how do they know it’s a “planet” and not a big “comet”?


19 posted on 09/18/2009 9:47:08 AM PDT by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
My first thought also. As likely to not come from an original accretion disk.
20 posted on 09/18/2009 10:05:30 AM PDT by BlueDragon (A few goodly sized space rocks could ruin your whole day)
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