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1 posted on 09/17/2009 9:55:54 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Could that not be from keeping, rather than aborting, humans?


2 posted on 09/17/2009 9:57:04 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Liberals have an inability to value good character or to desire it for themselves.)
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Mississippi topped the list for conservative religious beliefs and teen birth rates

I'd like to see the racial breakdown of the teen birth rates. Just sayin'.

3 posted on 09/17/2009 9:57:43 AM PDT by Huck ("He that lives on hope will die fasting"- Ben Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanac)
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This makes sense. Higher birth rate, but NOT higher abortion rate—states with more Christians probably don’t have as many abortion.

Does not necessarily mean conception rate.


4 posted on 09/17/2009 9:58:11 AM PDT by madison10
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To: SeekAndFind

oh please.

What garbage.

As if the two are linked in any way whatever.


5 posted on 09/17/2009 9:59:04 AM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com ............. http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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It’s not lack of contraception, it’s disdain for abortion.


6 posted on 09/17/2009 9:59:23 AM PDT by BertWheeler (Dance and the World Dances With You!)
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Mississippi topped the list for conservative religious beliefs and teen birth rates, according to the study results, which will be detailed in a forthcoming issue of the journal Reproductive Health.

What subgroup of the population has the highest level of unwed pregnancy? What do thes Bible Belt states have in common concerning that subgroup that could explain their higher numbers? Bueller? Bueller?

7 posted on 09/17/2009 9:59:44 AM PDT by SampleMan (Socialism enslaves you & kills your soul.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Perhaps because these communities frown upon teens having abortions.

Or maybe the 19 year old teenager is married.


11 posted on 09/17/2009 10:00:12 AM PDT by bobjam
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in a land without abortion, an interesting thing will happen: when children realize that sex leads to babies, they'll stop having it until they want babies.
12 posted on 09/17/2009 10:01:08 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (hang the Czars.)
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Just from my observations, I don’t believe it has anything to do with ‘frowning on contraception” but instead, parents and children not discussing the issue. For many, the entire subject is ‘taboo’. When teenagers rebel, as they do, they gravitate towards what seems taboo (be it drinking, smoking, sex, etc), especially if their parents didn’t discuss with them consequences, etc.


14 posted on 09/17/2009 10:01:35 AM PDT by mnehring
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I’m going to go out on a limb and speculate that more of these teenage birth mothers marry their baby’s fathers, too, and assume responsiblity for their offspring. Just sayin....


15 posted on 09/17/2009 10:01:47 AM PDT by nfldgirl
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For western nations to even survive it is going to be necessary for us to find a way for people to again marry and start families beginning at age 17 - 19; the thing we’ve been doing for the last 60 years or so clearly isn’t working.


16 posted on 09/17/2009 10:02:24 AM PDT by wendy1946
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Again an example of drawing incorrect conclusions. Perhaps the birth rate ( particularly in places like Mississippi and the inner city of Pittsburgh) is large there because you have a bunch of unwed teens doing what they damned well please and telling any adults “You aren’t the boss of me).


19 posted on 09/17/2009 10:04:08 AM PDT by the long march
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I think the best way to read this is that religious communities let the children actually be born than abort them like in non-religious communities.


21 posted on 09/17/2009 10:04:28 AM PDT by WaterBoard (Eventually, Socialists run out of other peoples' money to spend.)
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Abortion could play a role here, as well as the fact that the more conservative states tend to be more rural and thus, the opportunity to fool around is more present...it’s just something to do on a boring Friday night.


23 posted on 09/17/2009 10:06:12 AM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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Cause everyone knows that if it is a “highly religious” state they winnow out the non believers and send them to the heathen outlands.


28 posted on 09/17/2009 10:09:21 AM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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Of course. I'd be shocked if this wasn't the case. Note how they phrase the stat:

U.S. states whose residents have more conservative religious beliefs on average tend to have higher rates of teenagers giving birth, a new study suggests.

In the less religious states, they just kill the baby in utero.


31 posted on 09/17/2009 10:13:05 AM PDT by Antoninus ("There is no movement," --G. W. Bush)
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These journalists really have an agenda. I wonder if they learn it in journalism classes or if it is self-selection. Could be they’re not very smart.

They may get A’s in journalism classes but they flunk research design. Nothing in their data says it’s the religious folks who are having the babies.


32 posted on 09/17/2009 10:13:34 AM PDT by ladyjane
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If they didn't poll the political views of the actual parents, the article is worthless and logically invalid.
33 posted on 09/17/2009 10:13:37 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (Barack Obama - The wrong man, at the wrong time, for the wrong country.)
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Can’t have anything to do with low abortion rates. Surely not.


34 posted on 09/17/2009 10:14:35 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Depression Countdown: 50... 49... 48...)
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"We conjecture that religious communities in the U.S. are more successful in discouraging the use of contraception among their teenagers than they are in discouraging sexual intercourse itself."

Sounds logical. Even teenagers from religious homes grow up in a culture where "sex for fun" is considered a human right. It all stems from the Enlightenment/Reformation idea that the individual is the basic unit of society, and that no one has the right to limit an individual's liberty.

The truth, of course, is that the family, not the individual, is the natural basis of human society, and that outside of a context of marriage and procreation the sexual act becomes meaningless and harmful.

The worship of individual liberty has made slaves of us, by shacking us to our primal desires. Until our current liberal/libertarian social environment collapses, the best thing a parent can do to prevent their children from fornicating is to raise them as part of a loving family that is explicitly at odds with the prevailing culture. Step One: get rid of television and radio in the home.

36 posted on 09/17/2009 10:16:27 AM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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