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ACLU questions Gate City High about prayer before football game
Kingsport (TN) Times News ^ | September 16, 2001 | Wes Bunch

Posted on 09/17/2009 4:24:51 AM PDT by don-o

GATE CITY — A prayer delivered prior to a high school football game last week resulted in Gate City High School receiving a letter Tuesday from the Virginia chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union.

In the letter, the ACLU informed the school that it believed a prayer said during a student-led memorial service prior to Gate City’s Sept. 11 home game against Sullivan South High School was unconstitutional.

It also asked for the practice to cease immediately.

“We heard from someone who attends these football games ... that the game last Friday was opened with a prayer and that they had seen this happen last season as well,” said Rebecca K. Glenberg, legal director for the Virginia ACLU. “The Supreme Court has made it quite clear that public high school football games cannot be opened with an official prayer.”

That holds true even if the opening prayer is done by students, she said.

The prayer was delivered by a student member of the school’s Fellowship of Christian Athletes during a ceremony that included a moment of silence for a Sullivan South football player who died earlier this season and a remembrance of the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

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Those pesky Christians....
1 posted on 09/17/2009 4:24:51 AM PDT by don-o
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To: don-o

Freedom OF Religion does not mean Freedom FROM Religion.


2 posted on 09/17/2009 4:26:18 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (The ACORN REPORT = http://republicans.oversight.house.gov/media/pdfs/20090723ACORNReport.pdf)
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Demoralizing society is one of the steps to trying to change it. David Horowitz has written much about this. He says there needs to be a push back .
3 posted on 09/17/2009 4:29:43 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: don-o

THANK GOD THE ACLU is protecting our liberties


4 posted on 09/17/2009 4:30:05 AM PDT by Mr. K (THIS ADMINISTRATION IS WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT!!!!!)
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To: don-o

“Your papers, please...”


5 posted on 09/17/2009 4:30:25 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (I'd rather be a teabagger than an ankle-grabber.)
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To: don-o

The ACLU - ever vigilant.

How is their civil case against the Philly voter intimidation squad going?


6 posted on 09/17/2009 4:30:51 AM PDT by relictele
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To: opentalk

Exactly.
In his Art of Political Warfare, he outlines strategies.

For this particular issue, I’d suggest that Christian athletes in every state start praying massively.

Overwhelm the ACLU’s ability to go after people for being Christian.

Go to court. Let them win in court.

Then continue praying and let them prosecute. Continue the Civil Disobedience of praying.

Can you believe the Left is winning so dramatically that prayer is considered Civil Disobedience?


7 posted on 09/17/2009 4:32:16 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (I'd rather be a teabagger than an ankle-grabber.)
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To: don-o

Given the choice of the NEW Black Panthers and voter intimidation OR High Schoolers praying before a football game...

(a CNN poll or ACLU’s choice of litigation)


8 posted on 09/17/2009 4:32:36 AM PDT by This_far (Mandatory health insurance? I thought it was about health care!)
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To: don-o

A prayer delivered prior to a high school football game last week resulted in Gate City High School
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Please remember that any government powerful enough to fund an institution that allows Christian prayer ( in this case, a school), is powerful enough to allow Muslim, pagan, or atheistic practices.

The solution in this case is privatization of education. In other areas of our society, the solution is to privatize, as much as possible, the services now provided by the government.


9 posted on 09/17/2009 4:34:21 AM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: opentalk

After ACORN is investigated, then the spotlight should turn on the ACLU...


10 posted on 09/17/2009 4:35:34 AM PDT by jazzlite (esat)
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To: opentalk

There needs to be push back. I agree. A prayer and a moment of silence for the fallen—how could that offend anyone?! We have such wishy washy leadership that maybe they’re afraid of a large Muslim population that will one day insist on their calls to prayer and such in schools, that they are preemptively denying any prayer under any circumstances now. But then again, maybe they just hate Christians and one has nothing to do with the other.


11 posted on 09/17/2009 4:38:30 AM PDT by samsmom
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
Then continue praying and let them prosecute. Continue the Civil Disobedience of praying.
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Saul Alinsky teaches that Marxists should “use their rules against them”.

Ok...So?...If the courts rule that Christian prayer is allowed, what are you going to do when Muslims, pagans, Hindus, and atheists demand the public forum for their practices?

The solution of course is to privatize, as much as possible, community services, in this case schooling.

12 posted on 09/17/2009 4:38:44 AM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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The prayer was delivered by a student member of the school’s Fellowship of Christian Athletes during a ceremony that included a moment of silence for a Sullivan South football player who died earlier this season and a remembrance of the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

What sort of low life scum would devote a single second of their time complaining about that? Not even to mention ACLU members and attorneys. \

13 posted on 09/17/2009 4:42:38 AM PDT by Will88
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But then again, maybe they just hate Christians and one has nothing to do with the other.

The war against any show of faith in public began before most Americans even knew what a Muslim was, in the early '70s or even sooner. But one motive of the open borders types is to dilute traditional American values by bringing in large numbers of non-Christians. Both those pressures will work against Christians in the future.

14 posted on 09/17/2009 4:53:04 AM PDT by Will88
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To: don-o

Message to Gate City: The ACLU uses threats and intimidation to get their way. Stand strong in the face of these scum.


15 posted on 09/17/2009 4:55:38 AM PDT by Bulldawg Fan (Victory is the last thing Murtha and his fellow Defeatists want.)
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To: wintertime

Or just let them pray if they want to.

Freedom of religion does not mean freedom from religion.

And if I want to be allowed to pray in public, I’d better be willing to allow others to as well.

Mutual freedom is a better recipe for a strong society than mutual oppression.


16 posted on 09/17/2009 4:57:57 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (I'd rather be a teabagger than an ankle-grabber.)
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To: don-o

How did they know?

Where is their Scott County office?


17 posted on 09/17/2009 4:59:00 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Quotes of the century: 2001 "Lets Roll"..... 2009 "You Lie")
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To: samsmom

from quick search,

ACLU gets funding from far left groups and SOROS groups.
Open Society Institute, Carnegie Corp, Ford Foundation.

George Soros is an athiest and also wants to undermine the Christian Culture in America.


18 posted on 09/17/2009 5:06:55 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: don-o

All this time I thought my girls were playing basketball and I come to find they’re actually playing “unconstitutional basketball”. Maybe they should only pray when playing against teams that are obviously better than them. That way, if they lose, it doesn’t count, right?


19 posted on 09/17/2009 5:15:37 AM PDT by Mygirlsmom (9/12/2009 Wash DC: The most unlikely bunch of domestic terrorists one could ever imagine)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

Or just let them pray if they want to.
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“just”?

As the size and scope of government grows, the power of the voting mob grows as well.

If you really want to pull the rug out from under the Marxist atheists reduce the power of the government.


20 posted on 09/17/2009 5:19:44 AM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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