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Feds Ask IT Execs To Throw Away Cellphones After Visiting China
Slashdot ^ | 9/16/9 | Soulskill

Posted on 09/16/2009 12:59:24 PM PDT by Clint Williams

sholto writes

"US intelligence agencies are advising top US IT executives to weigh their laptops before and after visiting China as one of many precautions against corporate espionage. Symantec Chief Technology Officer Mark Bregman said he was also advised to buy a new cellphone for each visit and to throw it away after leaving. Bregman said he kept a separate MacBook Air for use in China, which he re-images on returning, but claimed he didn't subscribe to the strictest policies. 'Bregman said the US was also concerned about its companies employing Chinese coders, particularly in security.'"


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Not to worry. U.S. Customs will find it in their search of your laptops and cellphones. / s
1 posted on 09/16/2009 12:59:24 PM PDT by Clint Williams
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To: Clint Williams
weigh their laptops before and after

Gee... I dunno about this one... anyone know much several lines of code weight?

2 posted on 09/16/2009 1:01:43 PM PDT by John123 (If Teddy was the lion of the senate... then we were the prey.)
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To: Clint Williams

Sounds to me like the State Department is “racial profiling”. Someone alert the ACLU!!!

/sarc


3 posted on 09/16/2009 1:03:00 PM PDT by Mr. Jazzy ("I AM JIM THOMPSON!!!")
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To: John123

It’s not the code persay, rather it’s taking all of those nice skinny 1’s and turning them into fat 0’s.


4 posted on 09/16/2009 1:04:06 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (Another day, another injury, another step closer...)
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To: John123

This is looking for surreptitious hardware, not software.


5 posted on 09/16/2009 1:04:45 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Unashamed Sarah-Bot.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
This is looking for surreptitious hardware, not software.

Dude... buy some humor... it was a joke. :)

6 posted on 09/16/2009 1:06:02 PM PDT by John123 (If Teddy was the lion of the senate... then we were the prey.)
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To: John123

Reminds me of an anecdote about the moon mission:

Since “software” was listed on the manifest for the lunar mission, the payload specialist went to ask the programmers how much it weighed. The programmers told them that software doesn’t weigh anything.
The payload guy went off a bit confused, but showed up later with a stack of punch cards. “They told me that this was the software! This could have significant weight”.

The programmer said, “oh, the software is in the holes”.


7 posted on 09/16/2009 1:06:21 PM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: John123

It is possible though unlikely, to add a board that runs code in parallel. Further possible to change bios chip sets, HDs etc so that they function the same to the user but adds intelligence gathering capabilities.

However, you point is correct. The greater threat is to software.


8 posted on 09/16/2009 1:06:35 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: John123
Gee... I dunno about this one... anyone know much several lines of code weight?

Gee, that's a tough one because tight, terse code is much denser so it can be much heavier than it appears.

9 posted on 09/16/2009 1:09:20 PM PDT by paulycy (Screw the RACErs.)
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To: John123
Very Funny, but electricity has mass so depending on how charged your battery is when you weigh it can impact the measurement..... I see a Myth Buster on this one...
10 posted on 09/16/2009 1:12:19 PM PDT by 11th Commandment (Proud Member of the DHS radical list since Jan 20, 2009)
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To: taxcontrol

True. An executive who carries laptops, sync’s their iPod/iPhone and connects to a Chicom network could be in risky territory. You just know the Chinese government is sniffing packets looking for any interesting information.

I’m sure they have quite a few engineers designing software to spy on foreign systems, not to mention the social engineering of a friendly corporate type who wants an excuse to show a product demo and gets you to play his “CD” or download his “PowerPoint” presentation.


11 posted on 09/16/2009 1:18:06 PM PDT by Crolis ("Nemo me impune lacessit!" - "No one provokes me with impunity!")
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To: Drill Thrawl

>> it’s taking all of those nice skinny 1’s and turning them into fat 0’s.

Nah, zeroes are empty in the middle. They look fatter but they’re mostly... well, mostly *nothing*.

1’s pack together much more densely.


12 posted on 09/16/2009 1:18:20 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
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To: John123

>> anyone know much several lines of code weight?

BASIC or C?


13 posted on 09/16/2009 1:20:02 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
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To: Clint Williams

Since the phones and computers were made in China, why would the Chinese wait for the device to return before putting the spy stuff on it.


14 posted on 09/16/2009 1:21:03 PM PDT by Never on my watch (Do you REALLY think Obama is just going to let us vote him out of office?)
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To: John123
weigh their laptops before and after

Gee... I dunno about this one... anyone know much several lines of code weight?

I've worked on some pretty heavy code in the past, but don't know the exact weight. I just assumed it was counter-balanced by the bloatware in the OS.

15 posted on 09/16/2009 1:21:07 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: Clint Williams
That's like sticking their fingers in dykes dikes in order to stem floods. They should have broken their habit of sticking their fingers in dikes long ago. In the near future, only those who produce in America will be welcome here.


16 posted on 09/16/2009 1:54:41 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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To: Nervous Tick

>> anyone know much several lines of code weight?

You mean like how many lines per gram?

It all depends on how much company you have...


17 posted on 09/16/2009 1:58:05 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: John123

weigh their laptops before and after
Gee... I dunno about this one... anyone know much several lines of code weight?”

I would like to know that, also.


18 posted on 09/16/2009 2:01:05 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Never on my watch
Because they don't know who is going to buy it when it is manufactured. It is the laptop of Official X from Company Y that they want to spy on, not every person with a Chinese made product.
19 posted on 09/16/2009 2:04:31 PM PDT by allmendream (Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be RE-distributed?)
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To: John123

LOL

That’s similiar to a question I ask my high school physics class...

“What’s the difference in the mass of a blank CD and one that’s full?”

They get it.


20 posted on 09/16/2009 2:24:04 PM PDT by Mrs.Z
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