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Judge tosses out Army captain's complaint questioning president's birth; Orly Taitz on notice
http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/news/breaking_news/story/841419.html ^

Posted on 09/16/2009 9:48:30 AM PDT by vikk

U.S. District Court Judge Clay Land today tossed out a complaint by an Army captain fighting deployment to Iraq by questioning the legitimacy of President Barack Obama.

Land also put attorney Orly Taitz, who represents Capt. Connie Rhodes and is a leader in the national “birther” movement, on notice by stating that she could face sanctions if she ever files a similar “frivolous” lawsuit in his court.

“(Rhodes) has presented no credible evidence and has made no reliable factual allegations to support her unsubstantiated, conclusory allegations and conjecture that President Obama is ineligible to serve as president of the United States,” Land states in his order. “Instead, she uses her complaint as a platform for spouting political rhetoric, such as her claims that the president is ‘an illegal usurper, an unlawful pretender, [and] an unqualified imposter.’”

Rhodes, who filed her complaint Sept. 4 in the Columbus Division of U.S. District Court, argued that some facts point to Obama not being naturalized or possibly an illegal immigrant.

“This plaintiff cannot in good conscience obey orders originating from a chain of command from this merely de facto president,” Rhodes’ complaint states. “This plaintiff cannot be lawfully compelled to obey this de facto president’s orders.”

In his order, Land states in a footnote that Obama defeated seven opponents in a “grueling” primary campaign that cost the contenders more than $300 million. Obama then moved on to the general election, where he faced Sen. John McCain, who Land states got $84 million to wage his campaign.

“It would appear that ample opportunity existed for discovery of evidence that would support any contention that the president was not eligible for the office he sought,” Land says.

The judge adds that Congress hasn’t started impeachment proceedings against Obama, appears satisfied that he can hold the office and has rejected the suggestion he isn’t.


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KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; orlytaitz; sourcetitlenoturl
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To: IntolerantOfTreason

It goes back to Geneva Convention protections in a combat zone.


61 posted on 09/16/2009 10:33:25 AM PDT by roaddog727 (It's the Constitution, Stupid!)
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To: roaddog727

Same subject tho, correct?


62 posted on 09/16/2009 10:33:30 AM PDT by Neets (Normal is in the eye of the beholder)
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To: Aria

suggest asking your son to produce any birth certificate that lists religion. I’ve got two originals from different states in my hand (with raised seals and file numbers) - nothing about religion.

When faced by wild ridiculous statements by RATs, just ask them to produce factual evidence or shut up.


63 posted on 09/16/2009 10:33:33 AM PDT by rigelkentaurus
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To: Neets

Same subject, different case.


64 posted on 09/16/2009 10:34:19 AM PDT by roaddog727 (It's the Constitution, Stupid!)
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To: Dan Middleton

“No other presidential candidate has ever had to prove they were eligible beforehand. It’s always been assumed.”

Since Chester Arthur (about whom it turned out later to have been a mistaken assumption), there has been no doubt about the circumstances of birth—until now.


65 posted on 09/16/2009 10:34:35 AM PDT by Genoa
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To: mlo

You are incorrect.

Such a ruling cannot be made, in good faith, without discovery. After discovery, then it can be determined whether there is merit in the claim.

This judge’s rulings, and actions, will be irrelevant as long as the case filed in California proceeds.


66 posted on 09/16/2009 10:35:03 AM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (America is still great....no matter what Globalists, Communists, Anti-Birthers, Terrorists think)
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To: Non-Sequitur

In California.

(The Obama Enablers will do anything to keep this guy in office...sheesh)


67 posted on 09/16/2009 10:38:04 AM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (America is still great....no matter what Globalists, Communists, Anti-Birthers, Terrorists think)
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To: mlo

Go to hell!


68 posted on 09/16/2009 10:38:23 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: roaddog727

A ruse does not include a court-martial.:-)


69 posted on 09/16/2009 10:38:47 AM PDT by verity
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To: Dan Middleton

re: prove they were eligible . . It’s always been assumed.

And with good reason, they didn’t go to extraordinary lengths to keep their birth certificates from being released.


70 posted on 09/16/2009 10:39:49 AM PDT by jwparkerjr (God Bless America, and wake us up while you're about it!)
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To: roaddog727
"Judge Land Presided over MAJ Cook’s hearing and was also dismissed."

That's correct. The orders for deployment were rescinded rendering the application for TRO moot. How else would have you have had the bench rule in that case?

As conservatives, we should expressly desire for judges to follow the law, not to make it up as they go along. For Land to have done anything other than dismiss would clearly have been "making it up" as he went along - hardly a conservative position.

There's nothing more unbecoming in a conservative than hypocrisy. The hypocrisy on display by many on and about this topic is unrelenting with respect how they wish for jurists to behave, rather than expecting the judge to follow the law as well as his obligations as outlined in the Federal Rules for Civil Procedures - rules that are understood by every 1L in the country. It's painfully hypocritical and equally unbecoming.

71 posted on 09/16/2009 10:40:11 AM PDT by OldDeckHand (No Socialized Medicine, No Way, No How, No Time)
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To: drypowder

The Republican Party and Bush-McCainites screwed up by not making BO’s Consitutitional qualifications a campaign issue. McCain didn’t even try to win with his mamby-pamby attitude. If I’d been running, the public would have seen a lot of video of the Dem primary debates—where was it? Basically, the people of the US have been sold out by those in power and it is time to seriously clean house.


72 posted on 09/16/2009 10:40:38 AM PDT by dtrpscout (A bad dog is better than most good people.)
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To: wintertime

I enjoyed that comment. It's so true. And servants were slaughtered and buried with their Egyptian Pharaohs. And mafia underdogs were put down to cover their owner's tracks. Same story everywhere. But I hadn't thought about it in quite this way before. Thank you.


73 posted on 09/16/2009 10:41:01 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: Lord_Baltar

Even though I had a father and mother i’m proud to call myself a bastard!!

I’m MEAN BASTARD AND DAMN PROUD OF IT!!!!


74 posted on 09/16/2009 10:41:26 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: OldDeckHand
As conservatives, we should expressly desire for judges to follow the law, not to make it up as they go along. For Land to have done anything other than dismiss would clearly have been "making it up" as he went along - hardly a conservative position.

There's nothing more unbecoming in a conservative than hypocrisy. The hypocrisy on display by many on and about this topic is unrelenting with respect how they wish for jurists to behave, rather than expecting the judge to follow the law as well as his obligations as outlined in the Federal Rules for Civil Procedures - rules that are understood by every 1L in the country. It's painfully hypocritical and equally unbecoming.


From the opinion:
"Any middle school civics student would readily recognize the irony of abandoning fundamental principles upon which our Country was founded in order to purportedly “protect and preserve” those very principles."
75 posted on 09/16/2009 10:43:04 AM PDT by Sibre Fan
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To: Pride in the USA

ping


76 posted on 09/16/2009 10:43:36 AM PDT by lonevoice (This tagline is identical to the one you are reading)
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To: drypowder

He may have been threatened with an aspirin bottle...


77 posted on 09/16/2009 10:44:12 AM PDT by thecraw (Follower of Jesus...American...Tennessean...Birther! You Betcha!)
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To: vikk

He’s basically saying that “It’s been twittered ya’all”.

Hell we don’t even need courts to be the finders of fact any longer since twitter arrived.

We’ve got to get these morons off the bench.


78 posted on 09/16/2009 10:44:52 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: Dan Middleton
No other presidential candidate has ever had to prove they were eligible beforehand. It’s always been assumed.

McCain did.

79 posted on 09/16/2009 10:45:45 AM PDT by Charles Martel (NRA Lifetime Member since 1984; TSRA rookie)
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To: mlo
"The judge was correct, you guys fail to understand how things work. You expect the court to do your investigating. You have to present a case *first*, then you might get to discovery. You can't just walk into court and say I *think* he might not be qualified so can we force discovery to find out?"

Unfortunately, your well-reasoned logic will be lost on many that stalk these threads. You'll be branded an Obot, a moron a liar and probably worse. Gird your loins.

80 posted on 09/16/2009 10:45:50 AM PDT by OldDeckHand (No Socialized Medicine, No Way, No How, No Time)
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