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Dennis Prager: The Left Is Right -- Taxes Are a Moral Issue
Townhall.com ^ | September 15, 2009 | Dennis Prager

Posted on 09/15/2009 11:37:55 AM PDT by EveningStar

One principle that all those on the left hold is that taxes constitute more than an economic issue; they are, first and foremost, a moral one. Economists on the left may argue for higher taxes on economic grounds but they and we know that at bottom, higher taxes, especially "taxing the rich," is what they believe morality demands.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: dennisprager; taxes
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Lots of good stuff in this article.
1 posted on 09/15/2009 11:37:56 AM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

Immoral - you mean


2 posted on 09/15/2009 11:39:37 AM PDT by SMARTY ("Stay together, pay the soldiers and forget everything else" Lucius Septimus Severus)
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To: EveningStar
This shouldn't be news to anyone.

Taxes have always been a tool of social engineering.

Predominantly, but not exclusively, by the left.

3 posted on 09/15/2009 11:41:13 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: EveningStar
RE :”Economists on the left may argue for higher taxes on economic grounds but they and we know that at bottom, higher taxes, especially “taxing the rich,” is what they believe morality demands.

Yes because their belief is primarily equality of results, social justice. I have to disagree with both sides of the morality question on taxes now.

In 1993 I bought the taxes are immoral argument believing conservatives in power someday would cut spending. That was till republicans got power in 2001-2006 and certainly 2003-2006. They ran up the spending on all sorts of social stuff to buy elections. Even the ‘conservative’ spending like Iraq invasion and reconstruction, democrats were resentful that their money was going to that, and independents eventually followed. So everybody wants spending on what ‘they’ want and calls the other sides spending invalid. So no one wants to pay.

"It's not the taxes stupid, it's the spending"

4 posted on 09/15/2009 11:50:47 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Socialist Conservatives: "'Big government is free because tax cuts pay for it'")
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To: Izzy Dunne

I agree that it’s not news. But Dennis’s presentation is one of the best I’ve ever seen.


5 posted on 09/15/2009 11:55:21 AM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar; stylecouncilor

Proud to say, “I’m a Prager listener”.


6 posted on 09/15/2009 11:55:41 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: sickoflibs
There is always a moral component when I am robbed to subsidize the BS lifestyle of someone else...and it's even more immoral if that ‘someone else’ has broken the law to come here in the first place and to and remain here working without him/herself paying taxes as I do! Income tax evasion is against the law here, right?

Please show me where on earth I can go and earn a living WITHOUT paying taxes!!!!

7 posted on 09/15/2009 11:57:25 AM PDT by SMARTY ("Stay together, pay the soldiers and forget everything else" Lucius Septimus Severus)
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To: sickoflibs

Republics talked the talk, but did you really expect them to walk the walk? Politicians are politicians: here’s your pork, now reelect us.


8 posted on 09/15/2009 11:58:53 AM PDT by EveningStar
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To: onedoug

Me too.


9 posted on 09/15/2009 11:59:12 AM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar; onedoug

Me three!!


10 posted on 09/15/2009 12:00:17 PM PDT by stylecouncilor (What Would Jim Thompson Do?)
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To: EveningStar

Robin Hood was a terrible economist.


11 posted on 09/15/2009 12:03:03 PM PDT by Teacher317
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To: Teacher317

I thought the left keeps on saying that they shouldn’t enforce their morality on anyone.


12 posted on 09/15/2009 12:10:49 PM PDT by gman992
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To: stylecouncilor; onedoug

I think Dennis is the most honest and reasonable of the talk show hosts.


13 posted on 09/15/2009 12:17:51 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: Teacher317
Robin Hood was a terrible economist.

Robin Hood took money from an oppressive government system, and returned it to the people who earned it.

14 posted on 09/15/2009 12:18:37 PM PDT by LearnsFromMistakes (Yes, I am happy to see you. But that IS a gun in my pocket.)
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To: EveningStar

I call the protests this weekend civil rights marches - if we don’t have the right to keep our property from confiscatory taxation, among other things, then we are not free.


15 posted on 09/15/2009 12:30:10 PM PDT by cvq3842 (Countless thousands of our ancestors died to give us the freedoms we have today. Stay involved!)
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To: LearnsFromMistakes
So Mr Smythee is oppressively overtaxed. Mr Hood steals taxes from government and hands it to other individuals, causing the government to tax Mr Smythee more. Mr Smythee is left to hope that the criminal might eventually come around to recompensate him, but after the third or fourth taxation, even getting the first amount back doesn't really help things, now does it? And that's only IF Mr Hood redistributes this now twice- (or more) stolen wealth with any sort of effective, efficient, or reasonable means. If you haven't noticed, most redistribution schemes tend to be rather unequal, inefficient, inequitable and quite corrupt. (See pretty much every attempt at Marxism or Communism.)

Instead, shouldn't we celebrate those who do not take from the productive at all? Both the Sheriff and Mr Hood were jackals. That story shouldn't give an excuse to the redistributionists to label one a hero and use the impulse to hijack vast amounts of wealth and income from the productive to reward the unproductive.

There's nothing wrong with the desire/need to help others. What is wrong is using the force of government to do it. What's worse is that government involvement destroys the impulse to do good, as well! If John Q Public had $20,000 less to pay in taxes, he'd be likely to give part (or all) of that sum to help the less fortunate. Not only is that opportunity stolen from him by taxation, but also the good feelings and self-respect that come along with such acts! Mr Public is not likely to feel nearly as good about inefficient (and easily defrauded) government programs as he is about personally meeting, learning about, and helping individuals in his own experience. I get no giddy thrill when I see a AAA tow-truck at work (even though I'm a "plus" member!), but I do feel pretty darn spiffy for helping a little old lady to change a tire in the rain.

16 posted on 09/15/2009 12:39:35 PM PDT by Teacher317
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To: SMARTY
RE :”There is always a moral component when I am robbed to subsidize the BS lifestyle of someone else...and it's even more immoral if that ‘someone else’ has broken the law to come here in the first place and to and remain here working without him/herself paying taxes as I do!

The trap is when Washington bribes the voting taxpayer with their own money. The taxpayer (including conservatives) response is “I deserve it, I pay so much in taxes”. Then everyone else is added to it, then it is means tested, then the federal judge doesn't allow government to cut off illegals. And here we are. But in general, they got us because almost everybody gives into the temptation. The spending is the redistribution and if not taxed the currency is devalued like GWB and now Obama.

To give the other side, democrats were livid that so much money was going to Iraq, and they whine about it to me every day here in MD (unless I dont talk about politics.)

17 posted on 09/15/2009 12:49:56 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Socialist Conservatives: "'Big government is free because tax cuts pay for it'")
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To: EveningStar

Although I agree with the majority of this, Mr. Prager needs a history lesson on Biblical Tithing. It was never money and only food was tithed. In fact there were many tithes which in total were more than 30% of the first fruits of crops/livestock.


18 posted on 09/15/2009 1:16:17 PM PDT by The Unknown Republican
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To: SMARTY

You have to read the whole article, not just the headline


19 posted on 09/15/2009 1:17:43 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for 0bama: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: The Unknown Republican

Dennis is an observant Jew. I’ve listened to him for years and he seems to know the Torah quite well.


20 posted on 09/15/2009 1:20:10 PM PDT by EveningStar
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