Posted on 09/14/2009 5:01:13 PM PDT by seanmerc
RUSH: And you enjoyed it for all the reasons that you've mentioned. But we've gotta be really, really careful here, Dana, about this left versus right government thing. You mentioned third party, and we've been through this with Perot.
CALLER: I know that. I know that. And I think Perot helped Clinton get in, I don't doubt that. I do believe there has to be a huge movement before people can vote that way.
RUSH: But a third party is not going to do anything other but ensure the reelection of Obama and every other Democrat running for office because even if you come up with a charismatic third-party presidential candidate, still isn't going to have anybody of any significance running in that party for seats in Congress of the US Senate unless this movement happened to become the majority movement in the country, and that's not what's happening. I respectfully disagree with you here. I understand the anger at the Republican Party. Hell, I've got it, too. I've had it for a long, long time. But don't make the mistake of thinking this is not a left versus right thing. This is a conservative ascendancy that's going on out there. You didn't show up and protest like this when the Republicans were in power.
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Rush is Right. Anyone bitching about the GOP being run by RINO’s and NOT active in their local GOP is just being a loud annoyance. Don’t like the direction of the GOP? Then join your state party, convince other conservatives to join, and go make a difference.
Sitting on your computer and whining here accomplishes very little.
Currently we have millions upon millions of Americans without a party. We call them conservatives.
The Don Juan of the republican party couldn’t get back to Washington fast enough to ensure the bailout of failed investment banks and firms moved forward. And now, we know the rest of the story. Thanks Juan.
If the republican party fails to deliver a passionate conservative in 2012, one who does not stroke nor submit to socialists nor communists, they will lose again. And it won’t be the fault of some illlusive third party.
And the big disappointment began. They got so concerned with the "moderates" that they failed to stand against the slew of gun-laws Clinton got passed and allowed a minority party (the demonrats) to kick their @$$es the whole time they held onto both chambers of congress and the presidency. Enough is enough. I VOTE CONSERVATIVE, not "republican," "libertarian," or "democrat." If you are the most conservative of the choices, then you get my vote.
Marxism and Fascism share many similarities. Both are forms of Socialism. Under Marxism, there is a control of the means of production by the proletariat, which would be the workers. Syndicalism, which is what the union structure is based on, modifies this by controlling the workers through forced unions and collectivist co-opts. Finally, full=blown Fascism marries these unions and co-opts to the government, creating a monolithic authority.
Isn’t this what 0bama is doing?
The “bailouts” didn’t simply turn the companies over to the workers, giving them all a stake in the automakers.
It turned them over to the unions, specifically, and gave the State the controlling authority. If this isn’t textbook Fascism, I don’t know what is. Even Hitler was less overt than that.
Now 0bama wants to apply the Syndicalist model to healthcare, by establishing healthcare co-opts. These co-opts will be one manufactured ‘crisis’ away from Fascist consolidation under the State. Think Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
Look who the GOP gave us in 2008.
You are correct! Just like the Clintoon years when we ran Bush, the incumbent (I guess that had to be done) but more importantly we allowed Dole to run in 1996!
Another old man Senator who, using the old RNC playbook, made it to the ballot by the expectation that since he had been in the party for so long, and was a Senator, he had the right to be the nominee.
Another political disaster that could be predicted as soon as Dole announced he was running.
Totally agree. What have they supported??? Where are they in support of the Tea Party?? No where. That’s where.
“Then Rush better get to work finding a real Conservative to lead the GOP because my days of holding my nose and voting for the socialist-lite RINO are over!”
I am 100% in agreement with you on that. I have sent my last dollar to a liberal, Value-less Republican Party. My money will go to actual conservative groups. If conservatives are not on the ticket, I’m staying home.
Re-grouping in Kansas sounds fine to me. If the ‘Rats get elected again, the Republic is finished in 2010. If compromising, Country Club Republicans get elected in 2010, the Republic is finished in only a couple more years. Why wait until we are weaker?
So, all you ‘broken glass’ republicans, what are you doing to shut down the open primary system that keeps giving us jello candidates? Until someone starts changing state laws and forcing republican candidates to run within their party all you are doing is bloviating - the sound and the fury signifying nothing. Have you contacted your state representatives and senators? Do you even know who they are? Are you just bitching about it on line or are you working to change it?
‘Cause if it doesn’t change you are loooking at Obama/Romney in 2012, because America is just they stupid. Democrats don’t need to vote for Obama in the 2012 primaries. They can cross over in many, many states and vote for the spineless jellyfish of their choice on the republican ballot. And the New York Times, National Review, Fox News and yes, even Rush and Ann Coulter will tell them who to vote for.
Yup.
There were more moderates in the Republican party back when Reagan was seeking the nomination. Reagan chose to stay in the Republican party and fight.
“Yep when I was young and foolish I threw my vote away on Perot. NEVER again.”
As long as the Republican Party believes they own your vote, nothing will ever change.
LLS
Capitalism is not evil you twit..
“Conservatism is all about choosing the lesser of two evils, always.
The other side can delude themselves into voting for positive visions and fairy tales, but real conservatives cannot, ever.”
That’s not “conservatism”, but “pragmatism”.
It is pragmatism that has put the country in the present predicament.
How is your loser third party doing??
Right. If people don’t make a little compromise , the Dems will always win. And given the slant of their party these days, another election or two and the only thing that might save our nation will be an armed revolution. And we may have to have that, but that is ,as the old saying goes, a tough row to hoe.
If you can't defeat the RINOs within the party, you darn sure can't defeat them (or the democrats) with a third party.
Anything you can do with a third party you can do easier by transforming the GOP. If you don't have enough organization and strength to do that, your third party effort will only, well, as Rush said, elect Obama and more democrats.
Can that be substantiated with the likes of "republican" Snowe, "republican" McCain, "republican" Graham, or "republican" Lamar Alexander?
Yes.
Various conservative organizations rate the voting records of our congress people. Check out the records and do the math. There is a correlation between party politicians and mindset.
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