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The Case for Killing Granny
Newsweek ^ | September 12, 2009 | Evan Thomas

Posted on 09/14/2009 8:14:01 AM PDT by jpl

My mother wanted to die, but the doctors wouldn't let her. At least that's the way it seemed to me as I stood by her bed in an intensive-care unit at a hospital in Hilton Head, S.C., five years ago. My mother was 79, a longtime smoker who was dying of emphysema. She knew that her quality of life was increasingly tethered to an oxygen tank, that she was losing her ability to get about, and that she was slowly drowning. The doctors at her bedside were recommending various tests and procedures to keep her alive, but my mother, with a certain firmness I recognized, said no. She seemed puzzled and a bit frustrated that she had to be so insistent on her own demise...

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TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: deathpanels; healthcare
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Excerpted, more at the link. This from the people who relentlessly attacked Sarah Palin over the death panels. I'm speechless.
1 posted on 09/14/2009 8:14:01 AM PDT by jpl
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The Left wants to kill babies.
The Left wants to kill old people.

Many on the Left are fairly open about this, and even proud about their enlightened stance on these "difficult issues". But, if an opponent (Sarah Palin)talks openly about it and indicates that the Left's position is morally wrong, then the Left gores ballistic, denies the whole thing, and engages in the politics of personal destruction.

And when the smoke seems to clear, the Left goes back to calmly telling people that children and old folks have got to go.

2 posted on 09/14/2009 8:17:31 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Play the Race Card -- lose the game.)
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It is a short leap between Saturday night and Sunday morning.


3 posted on 09/14/2009 8:18:28 AM PDT by devane617 (Republicans first strategy should be taking over the MSM. Without it we are doomed.)
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Of course Newsweak would ballyhoo this drek.

Even if we are willing to countenance letting a woman like this pull her own plug, that’s a far cry from saddling all patients with death panels.


4 posted on 09/14/2009 8:18:37 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Unashamed Sarah-Bot.)
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Newsweak doing what they do... are you ready for this one?

You really can't make this stuff up.

5 posted on 09/14/2009 8:20:31 AM PDT by Dr.Deth
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wonder what were the last words and wishes of Madelyn Dunham?

“was my absentee ballot for John McCain mailed?”


6 posted on 09/14/2009 8:21:19 AM PDT by silverleaf (If we are astroturf, why are the democrats trying to mow us?)
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In one of my recent grad classes, a young woman was giving a presentation on how she was working toward the goal of working with a group of ‘legal’ euthanizers. I was stunned at how the majority of the class was in total agreement with her on her views.


7 posted on 09/14/2009 8:21:23 AM PDT by devane617 (Republicans first strategy should be taking over the MSM. Without it we are doomed.)
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Your list is far too short.


8 posted on 09/14/2009 8:21:49 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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“My mother wanted to die, but the doctors wouldn’t let her.”

She probably wanted to get away from her commie son.


9 posted on 09/14/2009 8:22:23 AM PDT by y6162 (uish..)
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Were I Evan’s mother, I’d want to die, too. The sooner the better.


10 posted on 09/14/2009 8:25:50 AM PDT by the Real fifi
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“‘legal’ euthanizers”

Abortion was a big win for eugenics. Once the sanctity of life was diminished, euthanasia was all down hill.

It will be a very small step to proceed to state coercive euthanasia, aka murder.


11 posted on 09/14/2009 8:25:50 AM PDT by y6162 (uish..)
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Pleeze. The writer of this article, in addition to being a Kennedy-worshipper of the first order, has socialism in his blood. He is the grandson of prominent 20th century socialist Norman Thomas, socialist party leader, opponent of World War II, ally of Margaret Sanger, and hater of Israel and all things Israeli. If Evan Thomas said the sky is blue, I would go outside and look to make sure. He epitomizes blind elitism of Washington insiders. “I know what’s better for you than you do.”


12 posted on 09/14/2009 8:27:13 AM PDT by La Lydia
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Having been through a similar situation with both my mother and father, what is needed are advanced directives. Based on agreement with family and the patient’s doctors end of life treatment options can be limited to simply palliative care and pain management. What crosses the moral line is actively seeking to end the patient’s life.


13 posted on 09/14/2009 8:30:18 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." M. Thatcher)
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Warren Buffett is the biggest shareholder in Newsweek’s parent.


14 posted on 09/14/2009 8:30:51 AM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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Liberals, progressives or whatever they call themselves these days are “pro-death”. Pure and simple.


15 posted on 09/14/2009 8:36:16 AM PDT by graceandfire
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Evan, spare me. Save it for those who don't realize we're at war. The details of you individual situation with your "Granny" are irrelevant in any case.

The issue touches upon collectivist governmental approaches to what is, at it's heart, an individual situation. Such things only seem universal on the surface, and there lies one problem we'll never agree on.

The value of human life, any individual human life gauged by some subjective measure of its "quality," and whether they were or are a smoker, is hateful. Dress it up all you want, but there is no moral difference between the approach toward this "practical question" and state-sponsored human sacrifice.

Though, I must say the hypocrisy that can find an exception in the area of abortion with regard to the Right to Privacy and the patient and their doctor, that can then see a need for a community standard when it comes to setting granny on the ice floe is...Remarkable.

We really are at war. Your intent, whether you are capable of acknowledging it or not, is to divide Conservative Republicans up between hard-shelled Principled Republican Conservatives from those who are less aware of the clear and present danger posed by the Obama Regime, from the more soft-hearted who see in every definitive statement "a point."

Your point is hidden in deception, alienation from God, from any actual society of other people, and finally from yourself.

Repent, and be saved, through the power of Christ's finished work on the Cross. There may still be time to escape from damnation.

16 posted on 09/14/2009 8:36:30 AM PDT by Prospero (non est ad astra mollis e terris via)
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Evan Thomas says, "Jump in the pit Granny!"


17 posted on 09/14/2009 8:40:52 AM PDT by TheDon
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Did they take Mom’s tonsils out and amputate a foot just to make money before she died?


18 posted on 09/14/2009 8:41:38 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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I have no doubt that people who are suffering intensely will reach a point when they are ready to die. If they want to refuse further treatment, or even request the drugs to take their own life, I have no problem with that. But I do have a problem with others thinking they have the right to make that decision for me.

And one other point I haven’t heard anyone else discuss: People repeatedly say that since we (taxpayers) pay for something like health care, it gives them a say in how you live your life (unhealthy habits, overweight, smoking, etc.). Well, if they don’t want to pay for my bad habits than they shouldn’t have decided to pay for health care to begin with! O’Reilly made that kind of comment a few weeks ago & I just wanted to give him a good smack!


19 posted on 09/14/2009 8:42:26 AM PDT by Twotone
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We hold this truth to be self-evident that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights, that among this are life liberty and the pursuit of happiness. To secure this right governments are instituted among men, deriving their just power form the constant of the governed; [emphasis added]

Both, euthanasia and abortion, are patent violations of this first, and most basic, of our nation's founding documents. The right to life is bestowed by the Creator, not government. The government exists to secure, i.e., protect, this right not abrogate it.
20 posted on 09/14/2009 8:42:28 AM PDT by Lucky Dog
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