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9/11 Conspiracies: NY VOTERS WILL Establish "9/11 Truth" Commission in Nov. Ballot Initiative
NYC-CAN ^ | Sept. 10, 2001 | NYC-CAN

Posted on 09/14/2009 7:35:11 AM PDT by Moseley

This November, New York voters will vote on a ballot initiative to establish an official government "9/11 TRUTHER" commission with subpoena power and a $10 million a yaer budget from PRIVATE DONATIONS.

The wording of the ballot initiative is seductive and low-key enough to win a majority of NYC voters, simply asking "Would you like to find out more about what happened on 9/11?" The ballot initiative does NOT make any accusations or mention any conspiracy theories.

Therefore, the ballot initiative is likely to pass. Even those who do not believe in the conspiracy theories will want to know more and/or hope it will clear the air.

THE TEXT OF THE PETITION: http://nyccan.org/PetitionForm1Signature.pdf

http://nyccan.org/

City of New York Concedes 9/11 Coalition Has 30,000 Valid Signatures To Put Referendum For 9/11 Investigation on November Ballot September 10, 2009

New York – In a last minute decision, lawyers for the City of New York have conceded that the New York City Coalition for Accountability Now (NYC CAN), a group comprising 9/11 family members, first responders and survivors, indeed did submit over 30,000 valid signatures to put the referendum for a new 9/11 investigation before the voters of New York City this November.

In an earlier letter from the City Clerk dated July 24, 2009, the City had claimed only 26,003 signatures were valid, 3,997 short of the requisite 30,000. The City’s concession that over 30,000 of the 52,000 signatures submitted were in fact valid paves the way for lawyers from both sides to argue the legality of petition.

Representatives for NYC CAN, 9/11 family member Manny Badillo and Executive Director Ted Walter, arrived at the Board of Elections on the morning of Wednesday, September 9, to assist the court-appointed referee in commencing a line-by-line review of the disputed signatures, only to learn the referee’s review had been called off due to a last minute concession by the City. Mr. Badillo immediately got on the phone to inform others of the news.

“The City conceded we have 30,000 valid signatures. Big victory.”

The City’s concession comes as a result of the immense effort put forth by 50+ volunteers who gave more than 1,000 hours over a two week period from August 10 to August 25 to identify a total of 7,166 signatures that were wrongly invalidated by the NYC City Clerk and Board of Elections. On August 27, NYC CAN filed the 631-page Bill of Particulars cataloguing each of the 7,166 signatures it contended were in fact valid. NYC CAN submitted another 28,000 signatures on September 4 to guarantee the referendum will go on the ballot if they win the court case, bringing the total signatures submitted to 80,000.

631-page Bill of Particulars Filed on August 27

NYC CAN must deliver its memorandum of law in response to the City’s motion for summary judgment by Monday, September 21. The City will be given an opportunity to reply before the referee’s decision is made on Monday September 28. Fast-track appeals will likely follow no matter who wins. A final decision will have to be made by September 30.

If the referendum passes in November, it would lead to the creation of a local, independent commission with subpoena power that would be tasked with comprehensively reinvestigating the attacks.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 8thanniversary; 911; 911conspiracy; 911truth; eighthanniversary; truthers; worldtradecenter
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Mark Twain said that a lie can be half way around the world before the Truth gets its boots on.

Unfortunately, if only one side of the story is told, it is possible to lie about anything. Witnesses will exaggerate to win their spot in history. "Experts" from ONLY the conspiracy theorists' camp might be called. This can smear good people for years to come.

There will be no due process, no right to cross-examine witensses, no right to insist on a balanced presentation by witnesses on all sides. There will be no way of demanding rational witnesses.

MAKE NO MISTAKE! These people are very slick. They are ruthless. They are determined. And they have had 8 years to polish their crap and make it sound good.

1 posted on 09/14/2009 7:35:12 AM PDT by Moseley
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To: Moseley

What a waste of money.


2 posted on 09/14/2009 7:37:09 AM PDT by Dallas59
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To: Moseley

What did the 9/11 Commission accomplice? What was it’s goals?


3 posted on 09/14/2009 7:37:18 AM PDT by BGHater (Insanity is voting for Republicans and expecting Conservatism.)
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To: Moseley

For years we have made the mistake of not responding to lies. The Bush Administration was horrible at public relations.

These people really believe that they can prosecute Bush and Cheney and others and put them in jail.

And of course they are hoping to smear Bush and Cheney and thereby prevent Republicans from winning elections in the future.

DO NOT MAKE LIGHT OF THIS!

Even an incompetent football team can win the Super Bowl if the other team does not show up to oppose them!


4 posted on 09/14/2009 7:37:59 AM PDT by Moseley (http://www.ShaleOilNow.com)
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To: BGHater

accomplished...nice one.


5 posted on 09/14/2009 7:39:03 AM PDT by BGHater (Insanity is voting for Republicans and expecting Conservatism.)
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To: Dallas59

To win votes for the ballot initiative, the nuts are promoising PRIVATE DONATIONS.

They are saying it will not cost any taxpayer funds.

George Soros can find $10 million in his sofa in coins.

They are trying to make sure this passes.


6 posted on 09/14/2009 7:39:03 AM PDT by Moseley (http://www.ShaleOilNow.com)
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To: Moseley

once this happens it should be full steam ahead on the issue of the native born Kenyan in the WH...


7 posted on 09/14/2009 7:40:02 AM PDT by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: Moseley

Good grief. They ram two passenger planes into the WTC, kill almost 3,000 innocent people, and people who actually live in New York City are a party to THIS? Good people in NYC, oust these cretins, or get out yourselves while you still can. The place looks like a lost cause, with stories like this one.


8 posted on 09/14/2009 7:40:16 AM PDT by MizSterious (Do you not think an angel rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm? John Page, 1744-1808)
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To: Moseley

Gotta get Van Johnson in the spotlight again.


9 posted on 09/14/2009 7:40:17 AM PDT by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: Moseley

The inmates are running the asylum.


10 posted on 09/14/2009 7:40:52 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: BGHater

What did the 9/11 Commission accomplice? What was it’s goals?
BGHater

The Nuts will respond that EVERYONE is part of the conspiracy. Any time you ask reasonable questions like this the response is that everyone is part of the conspiracy.

There are probably millions of people who don’t even know they are part of the conspiracy. It is so secret that members of the conspiracy don’t even know it. :)


11 posted on 09/14/2009 7:41:20 AM PDT by Moseley (http://www.ShaleOilNow.com)
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I would rather them waste their money on this than pushing their socialist agenda.

In fact I would like to spend a few billion in democratic party donations on this.

ROFL

12 posted on 09/14/2009 7:41:37 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied, the economy died)
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"people who actually live in New York City are a party to THIS? "

But the nuts are very clever. This indicates that they know exactly what they are doing. They are liars, not nuts.

The ballot initiative is seductively worded to suck in people who are simply CURIOUS and want to know more information about 9/11..

It is worded in terms of "Wouldn't you like to know more about 9/11?"

The majority of New Yorkers will vote for this simply because they would like to know more, not because they believe in conspiracies.
13 posted on 09/14/2009 7:44:37 AM PDT by Moseley (http://www.ShaleOilNow.com)
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In Massachusetts the Secretary of State circulates a pamphlet titled “Information for Voters” which has concise and unbiased summaries of ballot initiatives, as well as the complete text. Brief arguments for and against the initiative are also included, which are vetted of accuracy by the SoS. In my experience the matter is handled very fairly, even with initiatives like income tax reduction and prop two and a half which the entrenched politicians hated.

The wording of the ballot item:

“Would you like to find out more about what happened on 9/11?”

would not pass the smell test in Massachusetts. Something more informative and neutral like, “A proposition to create a panel to investigate the events of September 11, 2001” would be more like it.

14 posted on 09/14/2009 7:46:43 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Don't anthropomorphize the robots. They hate that.)
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To: Moseley

A@@holes nitwit liberal sick with nothing to do so they dream up this stuff. Like hundreds of attorneys and only a few cases, so they invent something to be paid for really by really doing nothing. America is so full of these liberal educated sicko that no wonder King Obama was elected. Add corruption and what a life.


16 posted on 09/14/2009 8:07:17 AM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: MizSterious

Wish we could, but it is next to impossible here. Just the other day the usual suspects were giving a press conference asking that Charlie Rangel be left alone. As he is doing a good job. Nothing changes here for long. Guiliani got a lot done, but now that he is gone, it is going back to the way it was.


17 posted on 09/14/2009 8:21:04 AM PDT by JimC214
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So let me get this straight, !ush and Cheney flew these planes by remote control into building that were set to explode because they were laced with tnt throughout both towers
. And these explosives were not affected by the raging fires caused by the planes. And it was Cheney and Rumsfeld that drove the truck bomb into it the first time when klinton was president. Oh wait we forgot about that cause it was ignored by klinton just like the warnings to fly planes into buildings like in the book dereliction of duty.


18 posted on 09/14/2009 8:28:47 AM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: Moseley

Imagine the MSM reaction if a conservative state created a similar commission to investigate whether or not Obama is a citizen, with subpoena power to finally get a copy of Obama’s long form birth certificate.


19 posted on 09/14/2009 8:44:25 AM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Crisis - America Held Hostage)
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Just as a side story, My pastor was a personal friend of mine and we had known each other for 15 years. I always thought of him as above average in his knowledge and his politics aligned with mine 100%. One Sunday night his sermon was on "Even the elect can be fooled".

His sermon was also a video media extravaganza from YouTube. He started in on the "truther" crap and I raised my hand to advise him that some of us are familiar with the internet and some were old people that didn't understand that because someone says something doesn't make it true. He was taken aback and more or less said Bush ADMITTED he was in on it with a video of Bush saying he saw the second plane hit the towers and it had to be war. I looked at this "admission" and it wasn't anything of the kind. His argument was that he wasn't near a TV at that time so how could he have "watched" it happen unless he knew about it beforehand? Then he went on quoting other "facts like Jet fuel doesn't burn hot enough to melt steel, ect.

I determined he had gone insane and left the church. We haven't spoken since except for one email. To underestimate the power of propaganda would be a mistake because I have personally seen the destruction of the human mind with this bilge.

As far as I know, he is still the pastor there, so we now have another American "madrassa". I hope is is sleeping better now with Obama in office. We can laugh off morons like Mikey Moore to our own peril, but the cancer has taken hold of a large segment of our population.

One can only imagine the dog and pony show New Yorkers could put on with "expert" witnesses from Tinsel Town and CGI presentations.

20 posted on 09/14/2009 9:11:57 AM PDT by chuckles
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