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Charles Darwin film 'too controversial for religious America'
Daily Telegraph ^ | 9/11/09 | Anita Singh

Posted on 09/12/2009 7:34:09 PM PDT by Borges

Creation, starring Paul Bettany, details Darwin's "struggle between faith and reason" as he wrote On The Origin of Species. It depicts him as a man who loses faith in God following the death of his beloved 10-year-old daughter, Annie.

The film was chosen to open the Toronto Film Festival and has its British premiere on Sunday. It has been sold in almost every territory around the world, from Australia to Scandinavia.

However, US distributors have resolutely passed on a film which will prove hugely divisive in a country where, according to a Gallup poll conducted in February, only 39 per cent of Americans believe in the theory of evolution.

Movieguide.org, an influential site which reviews films from a Christian perspective, described Darwin as the father of eugenics and denounced him as "a racist, a bigot and an 1800s naturalist whose legacy is mass murder". His "half-baked theory" directly influenced Adolf Hitler and led to "atrocities, crimes against humanity, cloning and genetic engineering", the site stated.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


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To: GodGunsGuts
Did you happen to notice the review that "Voyage" receieved from the very same MovieGuide.org mentioned in the article above :o)

Coming soon to a church basement near you!

I don't mean to demean, but that IS the distribution model for the competing film you reference. Which renders your (typically) triumphalist comparison (also typically) absurd.

But frankly I would pay to see both movies in a theater. "Voyage" is apparently at the least an attempt by antievolutionists to make a film that is accurate, subtle and engaging. I'm curious to see how well they succeeded. "Creation" likewise seems an attempt by mainstream cinema to paint a portrait that is fulsome, complex and fair, rather than a simplistic secular hagiography of Darwin.

41 posted on 09/12/2009 9:12:19 PM PDT by Stultis (Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia; Democrats always opposed waterboarding as torture)
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To: sickoflibs

God and country.

That’s what it’s all about.

You can serve both and be true to both. It’s not easy and in fact it’s damn hard but not impossible. One can do the best one can in spite of ones own human failings. Sometimes doing the right thing for one or the other is also the hardest thing to do but in the end, both will be appreciative of the effort.


42 posted on 09/12/2009 9:14:58 PM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: GodGunsGuts

RE :”The Voyage that Shook the World”

Oh brother !


43 posted on 09/12/2009 9:17:59 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Socialist Conservatives: "'Big government is free because tax cuts pay for it'")
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To: paudio

Stalin was the student of evolution - and upwards of 65 million deaths are laid at his feet. And so were Lenin and Hitler.


44 posted on 09/12/2009 9:22:51 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (When do the impeachment proceedings begin?)
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To: LiteKeeper
Thank God no mass murders have ever been committed in the name of the Bible and Christianity. I mean, how inconvenient would that be?
45 posted on 09/12/2009 9:44:48 PM PDT by Julia H. (Freedom of speech and freedom from criticism are mutually exclusive.)
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“The film has sparked fierce debate on US Christian websites, with a typical comment dismissing evolution as “a silly theory with a serious lack of evidence to support it despite over a century of trying”.
Jeremy Thomas, the Oscar-winning producer of Creation, said he was astonished that such attitudes exist 150 years after On The Origin of Species was published.
“That’s what we’re up against. In 2009. It’s amazing,” he said.”

THIS type of arrogance is what always amazes me about the hardcore evolutionist. Evolution’s viability as a reasonable theory of origins has done nothing but LOSE credibility since Darwin wrote Origins and Descent of Man. The discoveries at the molecular level of biology as well as an understanding of information science and genetics has destroyed the sandy foundation upon which evolutionary theory rested. Yet, the evolutionist sits there in his arrogance, spitting into the wind, proclaiming that if you don’t accept evolution as a fact as sure as gravity, then you’re a complete fool. Unreal.


46 posted on 09/12/2009 9:50:30 PM PDT by Arkansas Toothpick
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To: LiteKeeper
Stalin was the student of evolution

No he wasn't. None of the individuals you cite ever formally studied evolutionary biology.

My only point, however, was that Stalin rejected darwinian evolution -- at least the state of the art version of his day, i.e. neodarwinism, the reconciliation of classical darwinism with mendelian genetics -- by officially and systematically persecuting mendellian genetics and those scientists studying it. IOW, he outlawed darwinism in favor of the lammarkian views of psuedoscientific lysenkoism.

47 posted on 09/12/2009 9:56:15 PM PDT by Stultis (Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia; Democrats always opposed waterboarding as torture)
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To: wendy1946
Americans are said to be the world’s best consumers and that includes being the world’s best at rejecting inferior products,

I've never seen that written before and it is a valid thought or opinion that makes sense. Thanks for that.

48 posted on 09/12/2009 10:00:13 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: nmh

The difference between believing and knowing is profound, especially in technical fields; and evolution is a technical field.

The evidence supporting Darwin’s theory is now convincing to the point that describing evolution in any sort of religious way demonstrates ignorance.

As Christ said on the cross: “Forgive them Father, for they know not what they do.”


49 posted on 09/12/2009 10:00:16 PM PDT by OldNavyVet
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To: Arkansas Toothpick
Yet, the evolutionist sits there in his arrogance, spitting into the wind, proclaiming that if you don’t accept evolution as a fact as sure as gravity, then you’re a complete fool. Unreal.

Indeed. If you put the arrogance on the other foot. But you really can't see blithely denying the entire evidentiary basis of a science (actually a whole series of fields) that has been around for a century and a half, and pursued by thousands and thousands of individuals of good faith, from atheists to evangelicals, as arrogant, can you?

Remove the plank before dealing with the mote.

50 posted on 09/12/2009 10:03:30 PM PDT by Stultis (Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia; Democrats always opposed waterboarding as torture)
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To: Borges
Movieguide.org, an influential site which reviews films from a Christian perspective, described Darwin as the father of eugenics and denounced him as "a racist, a bigot and an 1800s naturalist whose legacy is mass murder". His "half-baked theory" directly influenced Adolf Hitler and led to "atrocities, crimes against humanity, cloning and genetic engineering", the site stated.

I would think that artificial selection was the influence for eugenics, not natural selection. And when it came to influencing a murderous rage against Jews, nobody was bigger than Martin Luther.

51 posted on 09/12/2009 10:06:39 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: OldNavyVet

About as perfect an example of absurdity as has ever been posted!

I stand in awe.


52 posted on 09/12/2009 10:09:46 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: OldNavyVet
“The difference between believing and knowing is profound, especially in technical fields; and evolution is a technical field.”

“I know. It's more than just “believing”. There is evidence of Him in my life. Evolution is a farce. There is no evidence to prove it. It's laughable.

The evidence supporting Darwin’s theory is now convincing to the point that describing evolution in any sort of religious way demonstrates ignorance.”

Only a fool could believe in evolution. Poor Darwin ... I can understand his anger and bitterness towards God. Losing a loved one is hard. But to dream up evolution ... well ... let's just say it's highly unlikely that Darwin or even Hitler and I, won't be spending eternity together.

“As Christ said on the cross: “Forgive them Father, for they know not what they do.” “

Yes, He will forgive you too. Even in your last gasp for breath. You should heed His advice instead of trying to make a mockery of it to favor your religion of evolution.

53 posted on 09/12/2009 10:15:39 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: richardtavor

What Darwin said at the last: “I am conscious that I am in an utterly hopeless muddle. I cannot think that the world, as we see it, is the result of chance; and yet I cannot look at each separate thing as the result of design”.

Charles Darwin

He was totally conflicted to the end. I pray that he found it before he died.


Deep down he knew he was wrong ... .

He was angry at God for the loss of his child.

I hope he did come around before he died but I suppose we’ll have to wait and see if he’s where we will be.


54 posted on 09/12/2009 10:18:38 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: AndyTheBear
Circular reasoning is very popular with the empty headed elites.
55 posted on 09/12/2009 10:19:24 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: org.whodat
“Correct, they are not into charity film distribution since none of their customers would show it.”

Correction!

They are not into chairty film distribution because the PUBLIC would not want it. Film distribution customers, show films their CUSTOMERS would pay to see. It's not about NOT showing it. They have no problem with showing it. It won't make any money with their customers - the PUBLIC at large.

56 posted on 09/12/2009 10:23:13 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: editor-surveyor

Evidently so.


57 posted on 09/12/2009 10:23:55 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: LiteKeeper
Socialism and communism are against social darwinism. In fact, they want to do something against anything resembles of survival of the fittest. One can argue that free market liberalism (in classical sense, not American today) is closer (but not identical) to social darwinism.
58 posted on 09/12/2009 10:28:28 PM PDT by paudio (Road to hell is paved by unintended consequences of good intentions)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

First, nobody brought up a point of ‘blowing off the idea of God”. Second, blowing off the idea of God had been around long before Darwin’s era.


59 posted on 09/12/2009 10:31:10 PM PDT by paudio (Road to hell is paved by unintended consequences of good intentions)
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To: Cobra64

That is not even close to funny.


60 posted on 09/12/2009 10:52:58 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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