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Glenn Beck smear campaign linked to ACORN?
http://www.glennbeckrapedandmurderedayounggirlin1990.com, http://www.acorn.org ^ | 9/12/09 | PhilipK9

Posted on 09/11/2009 9:50:22 PM PDT by PhilipK9

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To: PhilipK9

That is a lefty reaction for sure. FAke fake fake. You posted this so we would help that site get more hits and attention.


141 posted on 09/12/2009 7:11:34 AM PDT by PghBaldy (Obama Hijacks 9/11: http://www.serve.gov/assets/documents/09_0828_potus.pdf)
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To: greedo
I was trying to figure out why someone who is not an acorn employee would copy tags from a low traffic site like acorn instead of just using the one at Glenn Beck's site
I'm trying to decode what is meant by the above:

a) Do you think the parody site was created by GB asociated personnel?

b) Do you think the parody site was created by acorn associated personel?

Several of us are thinking b) the 'parody' site was created by acorn sympathizers, possibly on/using the same HTML authorship tools *or* they at least used the meta keyword tags pulled from the acron.org site INITIALLY because as we have seen they are commented out: <!-- not seen code -->

The REAL meta keywords look like this (the active, not commented-out tags):

<meta name="keywords" content="glenn,beck,rape,murder,1990,raped,glen,raped,murdered,really,did,glennbeckrapedandmurderedayounggirlin1990,glennbeckrapedandmurderedayounggirlin1990.com">

142 posted on 09/12/2009 7:12:17 AM PDT by _Jim
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To: PhilipK9

Someone should save them since they will probably soon be whitewashed.


143 posted on 09/12/2009 7:12:57 AM PDT by curth
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To: PghBaldy

Check this out ....

Looks like Isaac is busy deleting posts.

http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:3k3V0ovZbYcJ:didglennbeckrapeandmurderayounggirlin1990.com/discussion/index.php%3Fboard%3D1.0+%22Isaac+Eiland-Hall.%22+glenn+beck&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a


144 posted on 09/12/2009 7:17:43 AM PDT by maggief
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To: _Jim
All I can say for now is...   I DON'T KNOW!!1!

And I can't get that damn helicopter song out of my head

145 posted on 09/12/2009 7:24:47 AM PDT by greedo
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To: PhilipK9

And CBS News is linked to ACORN.

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/09/10/business/econwatch/entry5301076.shtml


146 posted on 09/12/2009 7:26:29 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: _Jim; greedo
_Jim wrote:
Isn't that traffic ranking a bit deceiving/a bit deceptive?

Just asking, but I seem to remember a discussion on this before.

acorn.org has one main entry point whereas FR page 'hits' look to be via several different entry points so acorn.org would show many more main page hits by Alexa ...
Alexa isn’t perfect by any means. It’s a little more like Neilsen ratings. With a key difference that the participants self select by installing the Alexa toolbar.

But the toolbar isn’t the only data source they use. They do get other information.

For the specific item you mention, multiple entry points, so long as all entry points for a site are the same primary domain (freerepublic.com would include www.freerepublic.com or webmail.freerepublic.com or anythingelse.freerepublic.com), those all count toward the same primary domain. If you enter through a different primary domain, that would count someplace else.

Here’s a link with a more detailed explanation of Alexa rankings: "How are Alexa's traffic rankings determined?

There are other web sites that do traffic estimations as well. Another that I sometimes refer to is http://www.trafficestimate.com/. That one attempts to (gu)estimate page hits per day. It actually uses Alexa data along with other data to generate the estimate. For most sites that I have access to the actual logs on, that estimator is usually somewhere within an order of magnitude (factor of ten) of correct.

For a look at all the Alexa data on the 5 listed domains, click this link: Alexa data for acorn.org, glennbeckrape....com, glennbeck.com, freerepublic.com and whitehouse.gov.

There are tabs above the graph to switch views between "Traffic Rank," "Reach," "Page views," and other statistics. Also, at the bottom of the graph, you can select the time frame for the graph, from the last 7 days all the way out to 2 years.

Except for whitehouse.gov, Freerepublic.com is way above the others. And actually, Freerepublic.com is typically above the whitehouse site, but in the past few days, whitehouse.gov has had a lot of traffic and interest. People are suddenly paying more attention to the official white house web site. Traffic at Freerepublic.com is much more steady. Whitehouse.gov has periodic spikes that seem to correspond to Pres__ential involvement in major legislative issues. There was another big peak back in March, around the time of the Omnibus(t) budget bill, and a huge spike back in January around inauguration time. Freerepublic built up to a peak during the 2008 presidential primaries, and then fell off until the conventions, when it built steadily to another peak around election day, 2008.

Also of note, up until the end of August, Acorn got far more traffic from searches than the others. Then, searhes going to acorn dropped off a cliff.

People are more likely to have the others in their bookmarks, or to go directly to those domains from other ways, rather than searching for something that takes them to freerepublic.com.

greedo wrote:
I was trying to figure out why someone who is not an acorn employee would copy tags from a low traffic site like acorn instead of just using the one at Glenn
First, the person who did this smear site on Beck isn’t the sharpest knife in the drawer. It is entirely possible that they work for ACORN. I don't completely rule that out.

Actually, it’s quite possible the “Michelle” referred to in today’s HTML comments might work for the people who develop and maintain the ACORN site (which may or may not be actual ACORN employees). And this person is helping “Kelly” develop the Beck smear site.

Reality is that very few search engines today even pay attention to the “keywords” meta tag. And the ones that do pay attention won’t rank you much for a keyword that doesn’t actually appear in the visible text of the page. So this trick won’t even fool most search engines (certainly not Google) and divert traffic to their site. Further, the “description” meta tag is far more important in today’s search engine environment, but the “developer” of the Beck smear site doesn’t have one of those tags at all.

But another explanation is that these people grabbed code from whatever page they have in their bookmarks, or a site that they liked for some reason. Now, given the traffic stats, not many people visit the ACORN site, so the population we’re talking about is pretty small, but it’s also the same pool of potential “developers” for the smear site.

Comparing the DNS whois info for acorn.org to the DNS whois info for gb1990.com, I doubt that the same people set these sites up.

On the other hand, it might fit in with ACORN's documented organizational structure shell game.

In short, the “keywords” meta tag on the Beck smear site really doesn’t prove much. However, the lack of a “description” meta tag on that site, to me at least, indicates that the primary developer(s) of the ACORN site were not directly involved in the Beck smear site. I think that those developers would have put a meaningful description tag on that Beck site if they were involved with it.

147 posted on 09/12/2009 7:51:04 AM PDT by cc2k (Are you better off today than you were $4,000,000,000,000 ago?)
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To: bustinchops; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; BP2; ...

Check out comment #116.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2337877/posts?page=116#116


148 posted on 09/12/2009 7:54:26 AM PDT by LucyT
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To: cc2k
First, a couple reactions:
Comparing the DNS whois info for acorn.org to the DNS whois info for gb1990.com, I doubt that the same people set these sites up.
Possibly conflating registrant with those contracted/doing the actual content creation ...
In short, the “keywords” meta tag on the Beck smear site really doesn’t prove much.
Connecting the dots; Woodward and Berstein didn't have much to go in the beginning either.
But another explanation is that these people grabbed code from whatever page they have in their bookmarks, or a site that they liked for some reason
I tend to grab code from my own archives first, and only resort to searches, Google etc after finding out that I don't have what I need; I don't know what/how today's contemporary web authoring tools work, but I suspect there are various Project Settings that link in pre-defined information like meta Keywords (we aren't talking hand-crafting of HTML at this level) ...

Thanks, for the other analysis ...

149 posted on 09/12/2009 8:33:12 AM PDT by _Jim
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The meta tags could have been copied pasted from acorn's site to support acorn. Just a possible reason. Nothing about acorn would surprise me..nothing. It's all part of a big squeaky machine that's starting to break down because the consequences of evil actions.. I swear, glenn beck and the tea party is actually making me feel hope again!
150 posted on 09/12/2009 8:42:22 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: PhilipK9

btt


151 posted on 09/12/2009 9:46:55 AM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: bustinchops
Looks like they’re trying to gin up a super-smear campaign claiming Beck raped and murdered a girl in 1990. There’s a bunch of crap elsewhere at lefty rumor sites.

While they're at it they should go for it!: Two years ago, Glenn Beck was arrested for hording nuclear weapons in his basement and had plans to blow up the capitol, but George Bush pulled some strings and had him released and had all charges dropped. Then all personnel involved in the arrest were mysteriously demoted or fired, and two even turned up dead. /sarc

(I better put that at the end or some stalker from DU will run with it).

152 posted on 09/12/2009 9:51:07 AM PDT by FrdmLvr ("The people will believe what the media tells them they believe." Orwell)
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To: PhilipK9; All
Try this:

Search on "heath care" using:

Google

and compare with:

Bing

Ask

Yahoo

Cuil

Compare the results.

153 posted on 09/12/2009 9:52:58 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: backhoe

The giveaway that it’s ACORN-related is the misspelled keyword “heath care” — no “L.”


154 posted on 09/12/2009 10:01:50 AM PDT by Jedidah
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To: FrdmLvr

ROFLMAO!!!!!! :)


155 posted on 09/12/2009 10:02:32 AM PDT by bustinchops (Teddy ("The Hiccup") Kennedy - the original water-boarder)
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To: PhilipK9

Very good catch


156 posted on 09/12/2009 10:08:27 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: eeevil conservative

The media of today, with the exception of the blogosphere and Fox News, are all about forwarding leftwing junk from the AP wire and getting invited to the right parties.

It’s up to us to pick up the slack and tell the truth!


157 posted on 09/12/2009 10:30:07 AM PDT by PhilipK9
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To: thecodont

“Heath care” is the new Obamacare spelling.

The “l” got euthanized because it was too old to keep alive!


158 posted on 09/12/2009 11:31:17 AM PDT by PhilipK9
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To: LucyT

The fake police report crap supposedly on Beck in 1990 was fabricated from the Duke case of recent fame. Whole passages were lifted and pasted into the faux file, often without changing any words!


159 posted on 09/12/2009 11:43:34 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Dems, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: PhilipK9

The meta tags from both are in EXACTLY the same order-

just that acorn’s metas, the original list, has been reduced to produce a second list.

IDENTICAL in every way !!!!!!!!!!!

Send to Glenn Beck !!!!!!!!!!!!!


160 posted on 09/12/2009 11:51:07 AM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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