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Air Rifles And BB Guns: Toys Or Weapons?
CBS2 Chicago ^ | Sep 9, 2009 | Dave Savini

Posted on 09/10/2009 8:28:29 AM PDT by KeyLargo

Sep 9, 2009 10:40 pm US/Central

Air Rifles And BB Guns: Toys Or Weapons? SEND A TIP TO THE 2 INVESTIGATORS Reporting Dave Savini CHICAGO (CBS) ―

Just a few hours ago a Naperville high school student was arrested for shooting a BB gun at students from Chrone middle school. Fortunately no one was hurt. Not the same can be said for one Glen Ellyn woman who had a BB pellet pulled out of her heart. That's why there is a growing call to have BB guns and air rifles regulated like handguns. CBS 2 Investigator Dave Savini takes a look at whether these are toys or weapons.

They are powerful and can cause fatal injuries.

A pellet was removed from Heather Van Horne's heart.

"I was hooked up to life support," Van Horne said. "This my scar."

She was just a teenager when she was shot by an air rifle at a New Year's Eve party in St. Charles. Van Horne is proof that a pellet gun or BB gun is dangerous.

"It almost killed me," she said.

Van Horne wants pellet guns and BB guns treated the same as other lethal weapons.

"These are deadly weapons. I don't care how you want to look at it. These guns kill," said Dr. Michael Tuchek.

Dr. Tuchek is the surgeon who saved Van Horne's life at Good Samaritan Hospital in Downers Grove.

Dr. Tuchek grew up on a farm using guns, and isn't opposed to people owning air rifles or BB guns. He just wants them regulated the same as other lethal weapons, with background checks and firearm cards.

This CO2-powered hand gun fires pellets nearly 400 feet per second. This rifle with a scope: 1,200 feet per second.

"They can kill somebody just like a 38-caliber or Saturday night special," Dr Tuchek said.

Dr. Tuchek says anything that shoots a projectile can cause serious injury, like an 8-year-old who suffered damage when he was struck by a paintball.

The Valentino brothers have been struck by pellets fired from the increasingly popular Airsoft guns. Vince Valentino, 10, and his 9-year-old brother Jim have sustained welts playing in their Lemont neighborhood.

They say the battles happen in the woods, and they've seen kids get hit in the face. Vince says he was shot in the face with an automatic.

"First time I got shot with that, I was crying for like 10 minutes," Jim said.

We found even Airsoft guns can fire pellets 300 to 700 feet per second.

"It's made 'em bleed," said Vito Valentino, Jim and Vince's father.

When he found out about it, their father says he put an end to their involvement in the neighborhood battles, especially after he learned kids had found a way to increase the velocity of their Airsoft guns.

"They have the CO2 cartridges for the Airsoft guns which makes them five times more powerful than a gun like this," Vito said.

So for now the Valentino boys are only allowed to shoot at paper targets.

So what would Vito's warning be to any other parent out there whose kids want these guns?

"If they don't have them, don't get them for them," Vito said.

And when it comes to the availability of the more powerful BB guns, Heather Van Horne says more regulation can't come too soon.

"I also wonder what it's going to take for people to want to take it more seriously," Van Horne said. "I am not the only one and I won't be the last person."

According to the Consumer Product Safety Commission as many as 20,000 injuries have been recorded in a year. And there are typically four deaths a year from high-powered air guns.

We have received numerous tips about kids hurt by the Airsoft guns as well but we could find no central database about the number injuries associated with them.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: ban; banglist; bbgun; guns; shoot; toyguns; wartoys
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To: KeyLargo
In NJ, BB/Pellet rifles are classed the same as any other long arm. Because of the way many local ordinances are written by clueless council members, discharging within township limits in many places is illegal and punishable by fine and jail time. In the northwest, most people and LEOs alike just don't care to enforce this silliness, but technically I've been breaking the law my entire life.

I'm amazed my Crossman 760 could be lumped in with a 7mm WSM. Makes no sense to me.

21 posted on 09/10/2009 8:40:31 AM PDT by paulcissa (The first requirement of Liberalism is to stand on your head and tell the world they're upside down)
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To: KeyLargo

In Michigan, air pistols are already regulated as handguns.


22 posted on 09/10/2009 8:40:56 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Joe Wilson speaks for me.)
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To: KeyLargo
The air rifle I shoot in competition can kill you. It's muzzle velocity is 570 ft/sec.


23 posted on 09/10/2009 8:41:02 AM PDT by airborne (Don't let history record that, when faced with evil, you did nothing!)
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To: Vaduz

The answer to your question is “yes”.


24 posted on 09/10/2009 8:41:29 AM PDT by Mr. Jazzy ("I AM JIM THOMPSON!!!")
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To: Vaduz

Only in the wrong hands.


25 posted on 09/10/2009 8:41:41 AM PDT by stormer
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To: Names Ash Housewares
I have a .50 cal BB gun. It will penetrate 1/2 inch of pine and will also take deer.
26 posted on 09/10/2009 8:41:47 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: KeyLargo

Lets see, A plastic fork or spoon or knife from a childs toy could be deadly. Almost any part from any toy can be mad deadly. Why are the weasels singling out guns?
It’s just like those “Guns crimes hit home” PSA’s. Like no other crimes, “Hit home”?


27 posted on 09/10/2009 8:44:21 AM PDT by vpintheak (4-times an extremist)
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To: yarddog
Some of them can be deadly. For that matter so can just about anything.

Exactly

28 posted on 09/10/2009 8:45:06 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Vaduz
Toys Or Weapons? The same thing could be said about tits.

Food storage devices or fun bags? You decide.
29 posted on 09/10/2009 8:45:33 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Welcome to the Revolution.)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; Shooter 2.5; wku man; SLB; ..
The latest whine from the


30 posted on 09/10/2009 8:46:35 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: KeyLargo; All

Lewis & Clark used air guns when they were looking for the northwest passage and exploring the Louisiana Purchase.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9WEsILY92o


31 posted on 09/10/2009 8:52:18 AM PDT by Mr. Jazzy ("I AM JIM THOMPSON!!!")
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To: KeyLargo
What is a gun? Are you talking slang, law or Webster. A black powder gun is not a firearm by law. They do not need to be registered except by that dumb blond at Sears. What is Auto? Who made up the term Assault weapon, insult weapon to me? The left capitalizes on loose terms to further their agenda. What is a deadly weapon, how about the NYT? How about abortion? Health care...
32 posted on 09/10/2009 8:53:16 AM PDT by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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To: reagan_fanatic

Both


33 posted on 09/10/2009 8:55:45 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: bankwalker

I use a suppressed Ruger 10/22 for the varmints in my yard.


34 posted on 09/10/2009 8:57:26 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: KeyLargo

When we were kids we fired green Blueberries in our single shot air rifles. Now that would raise a welt.


35 posted on 09/10/2009 9:01:02 AM PDT by PeteB570 (NRA - Life member and Black Rifle owner)
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To: goodnesswins

A govt. run healthcare system can be deadly.


36 posted on 09/10/2009 9:02:35 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (google; operation garden spot and REX84)
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To: PeteB570

When we were kids we fired green Blueberries in our single shot air rifles. Now that would raise a welt.

Welt you want a welt try a rubber band and paper clip.


37 posted on 09/10/2009 9:06:07 AM PDT by bikerman (Buck Farack)
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To: KeyLargo

TOYS

That being said,
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38 posted on 09/10/2009 9:07:50 AM PDT by wastedyears (The best aid we could ever give Africa would be thousands of rifles to throw out their own dictators)
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To: KeyLargo

Bricks too are dangerous. Between a thrown brick and a BB, which would these people rather be hit with?


39 posted on 09/10/2009 9:08:10 AM PDT by SampleMan (Socialism enslaves you & kills your soul.)
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Also, she got shot with a pellet rifle. Airsoft guns do not fire hard enough to penetrate skin. I’m sure they’ll leave nice black and blues with a little blood, but enough to make it to the heart, I highly doubt.


40 posted on 09/10/2009 9:08:44 AM PDT by wastedyears (The best aid we could ever give Africa would be thousands of rifles to throw out their own dictators)
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