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Dems heckled Bush, but Wilson was different
Politico ^ | glenn thrush

Posted on 09/10/2009 7:13:36 AM PDT by indcons

Joe Wilson's 15 minutes of infamy notwithstanding, Democrats were pretty rough on George W. Bush during a joint sessions a few years back.

Two examples:

In 2004, Democrats delivered a “Chorus Of Boos” during Bush's Bush’s State Of The Union when he called for renewal of the Patriot Act., according to the Washington Times.

In 2005, Dems howled, hissed and shouted "No!" when Bush pushed for Social Security reform in the SOU: "Foreshadowing the contentiousness of the coming debate, Democrats broke decorum and booed twice," according to the National Journal.

At the time, CNN's Bill Schneider remarked, “It was unusual. I had never heard it at least at that level before. The Democrats clearly were booing, heckling, saying no when the president talked about the crisis in Social Security."

Moreover, Obama's claim that illegal immigrants won't be covered -- which sparked Wilson's outburst -- while technically accurate, doesn't quite tell the entire story. Some of the bills being considered in the House and Senate contain provisions locking in local statutes that prevent providers from inquiring about immigration status prior to treatment. And illegals are treated, and are bound to be treated, in ERs, covered by local, state and federal uninsured pools.

So why the outcry over Wilson?

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: booingbush; deceiver; doublestandard; healthcaredebate; hypocrite; illegalimmigration; jaccuse; joewilson; judas; lyingliar; obamacare; obamaliedlibertydied; obamalies; obamatruthfile; pravdamedia; theobamashow; watercoolermoment; waterloo; youlie
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To: onedoug
Then this idiot apoligizes. What a bunch of crap!

He apologized for his outburst, not for the content. He apologized and got his point across-A win/win!

21 posted on 09/10/2009 7:27:38 AM PDT by Neverforget01 (Talk is cheap...except when Congress does it.)
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To: chris37

Obama had JUST called Republican critics “liars” in his speech.

Barack went before Congress so he could get Democrat applause on the key lines. That opened him up to counter response.

The Democrats were SILENT when a Code Pinko heckled John McCain at the GOP Convention in 2008 DURING his Presidential nomination acceptance speech.


22 posted on 09/10/2009 7:27:53 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Kennedycare?Recall that "Animal Farm" begins with a Socialist Revolution to honor Big Major's legacy)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Saying “You Lie” is personal, whether you want to consider it an ‘attack’ or not. It’s from saying “that’s not true”


23 posted on 09/10/2009 7:28:26 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: WHBates

Calling a liar a liar is gutsy, but necessary to maintain control of the agenda.
We know taking anything from government at face value is ceding complete ignorance of the consequences.

see tagline.


24 posted on 09/10/2009 7:28:53 AM PDT by o_zarkman44 (Obama is the ultimate LIE!)
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To: nuconvert

It’s *different* from saying “That’s’s not true”


25 posted on 09/10/2009 7:29:13 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: WHBates

Yes, they should have been filming me for how many times I yelled at the TV, “you are a @!%^ing LIAR!!”.


26 posted on 09/10/2009 7:29:41 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: nuconvert

If I say that Mohammad Atta was not part of the 9/11 attacks, you could call me a liar without it being a “personal attack”.....BECAUSE IT IS A LIE!

Same with Obama and his claims.


27 posted on 09/10/2009 7:30:17 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

It’s personal whenever the the word “you” is inserted


28 posted on 09/10/2009 7:31:58 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: indcons
Before the war, week after week after week after week, we were told lie after lie after lie after lie. - Senator Ted Kennedy Senate Floor Remarks October 16, 2003

Did he ever apologize?

29 posted on 09/10/2009 7:32:26 AM PDT by McGruff (Transparency and the rule of law will be the touchstones of this presidency - Obama)
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To: nuconvert

I disagree — don’t any of you get that this wasn’t polical or about manners — it was a GESTURE that was inspired from a truly spiritual source, to wake the sleepwalkers from their trance.
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If he had said, “That’s not true” it would have been more akin to the treatment Bush got.
But saying “You Lie” is a direct personal attack - a bit different.
Even though he is the Liar-in Chief


30 posted on 09/10/2009 7:32:51 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: nuconvert

I disagree.

A lie is a lie.

I do not care one whit if I offend the sensibilities of a liar, as they have no character.


31 posted on 09/10/2009 7:33:14 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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To: silverleaf

Nonsense.


32 posted on 09/10/2009 7:33:30 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: indcons

HERO ---------------- Zero

33 posted on 09/10/2009 7:33:56 AM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: indcons

I left my thoughts on the Politico site re this article and among the things I said was the following:

Would the outcry from the loony Left be any different id Wilson had stood and shouted, instead of “Liar”, the word “Prevaricator”?

I think not.


34 posted on 09/10/2009 7:38:57 AM PDT by 101voodoo
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To: kabumpo

“it was a GESTURE that was inspired from a truly spiritual source, to wake the sleepwalkers from their trance.”

That’s fine. I’m just pointing out that it was different from booing or saying ‘No’ as was done to Bush.


35 posted on 09/10/2009 7:39:32 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: indcons

Why do people always apologize when they speak they’re mind. Geeshh!!!!!


36 posted on 09/10/2009 7:41:07 AM PDT by diamond6 (Is SIDS preventable? www.Stopsidsnow.com)
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To: indcons
I regret the loss of decorum, but our side didn't start it. Those who are grievously offended need to check out video of British Parliament in session and then grow thicker skins.
37 posted on 09/10/2009 7:41:47 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: nuconvert; Slings and Arrows; Revolting cat!

He should’ve done as the heckler at Bob Dylan’s first British concert with electric guitar did and called him “Judas”. America is being sold out.


38 posted on 09/10/2009 7:48:16 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Kennedycare?Recall that "Animal Farm" begins with a Socialist Revolution to honor Big Major's legacy)
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To: CPT Clay

Maybe they should be called the “Hypocratic party”


39 posted on 09/10/2009 7:48:46 AM PDT by marstegreg
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To: indcons

I notice in this article that the Democrats booed President Bush over the Patriot Act renewal. And have they repealed the Patriot Act yet?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????


40 posted on 09/10/2009 7:50:11 AM PDT by petitfour (Are you a Dead Fish American?)
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