Posted on 09/09/2009 2:55:19 PM PDT by RobinMasters
Democratic officials are staying mum on some online images of Democratic National Convention Chair Nancy Pelosi's "Official Certification of Nomination" naming Barack Obama, of "5046 South Greenwood Avenue" in Chicago and Joe Biden, of "1209 Barley Mill Road" in Wilmington, Del., as the party's candidates for president and vice president in 2008.
The differences between the two documents that have been posted on bloggers, as well as linked in a report by the Canada Free Press, are revealing.
One references Pelosi's verification of Obama's eligibility to serve as president "under the provisions of the United States Constitution," while the other drops the reference to the constitutional requirements.
Both carry the signatures of House Speaker Pelosi as well as Alica Travis Germond, the secretary of the Democratic National Convention at its nominating meetings in Denver a year ago.
They were notarized by Shalifa A. Williamson of Denver.
WND contacted the Democratic National Committee to request an explanation of the two images, including whether one might be a forgery, but did not obtain any response other than a referral to a telephone answering machine.
Likewise, WND contacted the office of Pelosi, but likewise got no response.
The images:
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
WT F Nan!
Well, kind of looks like fraud at the highest levels of this Administration, doesn’t it?
Well, kind of looks like fraud at the highest levels of this Administration, doesn’t it?
Ping.
Paging Dan Rather...
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Very interesting. Both were signed on the same date, and by the same notary.
I found an interesting citizenship synopsis here: http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_citi.html
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Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in those gaps. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are "citizens of the United States at birth:"
Anyone born inside the United States *
Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person's status as a citizen of the tribe
Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.
Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year
Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21
Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)
A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.
* There is an exception in the law — the person must be "subject to the jurisdiction" of the United States. This would exempt the child of a diplomat, for example, from this provision.
Anyone falling into these categories is considered natural-born, and is eligible to run for President or Vice President. These provisions allow the children of military families to be considered natural-born, for example.
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This site, that is supposed to be a guide to the constitution (and pops up #1 in a google search of "citizenship constitution" is redefining natrual-born to mean that even if you are born on foriegn soil, as long as ONE parent is a citizen, you are a natrual-born citizen.
Interesting point. I keep seeing this “fallback” position also. “Obama was born in Hawaii, and even if he wasn’t, so what?”
I think if any of the basic facts of Obama’s biography - his place of birth, his paternity, or whatever it is that he obviously does not want people to see - is false, much of his legend will instantly be deflated to a great degree.
Too bad for 0... that wasn't the law in 1961. If it were, we wouldn't be having all of these BC conversations.
VERY intriguing report. I would have both documents authenticated and then ask whether this has ever happened before. Make sure there is no standard practice with two forms submitted for different purposes or whatnot. Just trying to cover all the bases.
Maybe one day someone will just ask Obama about this. But I guess I’m expecting far too much. I’d like to live in a country where the media asks tough questions, though.
Actually, this shouldn’t even be a tough question . . .
A Notary only verifies the signatures are by the people who signed the document, not the veracity of the document itself, at least in Colorado.
Shalifa? A notary named Shalifa?
The Culture of Corruption is bigger than ever under the new management.
Best line I’ve heard in a long time - this AM on Fox and Friends - Politicicians should be limited to two terms; one in Congress and one in jail.
Looks like more than fraud. Looks like an overthrow of the government and negation of our constitution!!!
She is the female? Darth Vader working with the Dark Side. She and Reid MUST be pushed through the door to the pit of Hades and take obama with them.
If, it is ever discovered the “Mack Daddy the Zebra” was not eligible to be POTUS everything he signed or approved should become void, and anyone who knew and did nothing should be tried for treason or at the very lease be removed from office forever, lose any and all benefits and fined $500,000.00 and placed in jail until paid.
Democratic Party Chairman Howard Dean and members of the Democratic National Convention Committee picked up paintbrushes to help refurbish a classroom at a local school Thursday.
The paint and plaster job at Manual High School was part of a Volunteers of America project to renovate the building and to keep the community interested in the school.
Manual was closed for a year due to declining enrollment and low student performance, but faculty, alumni and community organizers were able to get it re-opened.
"This is a very gutsy, risky thing to do," said Dean about the re-opening of the school. "This could be a model for the rest of the country, if it works. That's the challenge for the principal and school board, making it work."
Shalifa Williamson of Aurora said she's enjoying doing public service projects with other Democratic staffers from around the country.
"It's like a big happy family now," she said. "But see my paint stroke? It's getting more and more polished. My dad will be impressed."
bttt
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