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Already, 23 Dems have said they will vote ‘no’ on healthcare reform
The Hill ^ | 09/08/09 | Mike Soraghan and Michael M. Gleeson

Posted on 09/08/2009 4:58:47 AM PDT by kingattax

At least 23 House Democrats already have told constituents or hometown media that they oppose the massive healthcare overhaul touted by President Barack Obama.

If Republicans offer the blanket opposition they’ve promised, Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) can afford to lose only 38 members of her 256-member caucus and still pass the bill.

Most Democrats opposed to healthcare reform argue it costs too much, imposes a new tax and fines businesses that don’t provide insurance to employees. Some fear that the bill would subsidize abortion.

Many other Democratic members, including those berated by protesters at raucous town hall meetings in August, are still undecided. A lot could change before the vote, expected late this month.

Voting against a president from your own party is starkly different from defying a Speaker or a committee chairman, and Obama is stepping up his involvement, starting with a speech to a joint session of Congress on Wednesday night.

The Pelosi camp, for its part, sees no reason to be discouraged.

“The Congress will pass and the president will sign this year health insurance reform that will lower costs, retain choice, improve quality and expand coverage,” said Pelosi spokesman Nadeam Elshami.

Pelosi has vowed to include in the bill a government-run insurance plan, commonly called a “public option,” to compete with private insurers.

Many centrist opponents of the bill don’t like the public option, or don’t want to vote on such a controversial plan when it’s unlikely to become law.

There’s a chance the House bill won’t include it. Obama has shifted from saying it must be in the bill to saying he wants it in the bill. House leaders have said they want to see a bill from the Senate Finance Committee before the vote, and that bill is unlikely to include a public option.

But deleting the public option won’t make life easier for Pelosi.

At least 60 liberal Democrats have pledged to vote against a healthcare bill with no public option, which they view as watered-down reform.

Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-N.Y.) has said dropping the public option completely would lose 100 Democratic votes.

Even Pelosi’s critics and skeptics have to concede that she has almost never lost in the House since becoming Speaker. The main exception is the first vote on the $700 billion bailout package requested by the Bush administration, which later passed.

She twisted arms one by one in July to pass a climate change bill despite deep skepticism among centrists and Democrats from manufacturing states. But some of the public backlash from that has frightened and angered centrist and vulnerable members.

Democratic critics have different reasons for opposing the bill, and their opposition varies in its vehemence.

Rep. Eric Massa (D-N.Y.) a supporter of a “single-payer” system, opposes it because the public option isn’t strong enough. Other “single-payer” supporters in the party’s left wing could balk as well.

Some are definitive. There’s Rep. Gene Taylor (D-Miss.), a Blue Dog who is one of the most conservative members of the Democratic Caucus. He told a town hall meeting last month, “I would hope by now that everyone in this room knows that I am not going to vote for the healthcare plan.”

Rep. John Adler (D-N.J.), a vulnerable Democrat, was equally blunt. He told a group of constituents last month, “The bill that’s coming through the House, with or without the public option, isn’t good for America.”

Others, such as Rep. Henry Cuellar (D-Texas), say they can’t support the bill “in its current form.” The bill is widely expected to change before it goes to the House floor, but if Pelosi keeps the public option in the bill, many centrists will see it as a left-leaning bill.

Rep. Tom Perriello (D-Va.), who unseated an incumbent in 2008 by a scant 745 votes, said at a town hall meeting , “I am a ‘no’ now, but I really want to get to a ‘yes.’ ”

And plenty of others aren’t ready to take a position.

“I’ll do the best I can, but I don’t know what’s the right thing to do yet,” Rep. Joe Donnelly (D-Ind.) told the Los Angeles Times after a town hall meeting. “I don’t know what I’m going to do. I don’t even know what we’re going to be voting on.”


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1 posted on 09/08/2009 4:58:47 AM PDT by kingattax
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To: kingattax
Rep. Eric Massa (D-N.Y.) a supporter of a “single-payer” system...this is the clown who said he didn't care what his constituents wanted..... he wanted it.
2 posted on 09/08/2009 5:00:50 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: kingattax

The Communist Caucus in the House can pass anything it wants. The only hope is to stop it in the Senate and kill it in 2013.


3 posted on 09/08/2009 5:01:08 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (!!)
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To: screaminsunshine

I think each person on Free Republic should call their representative’s office...and ask how many more people in the White House have a National Security Clearance problem as Van Jones..and cite this mark levin article

http://spectator.org/archives/2009/09/08/valerie-jarretts-show/

Also email them with the link.

The more this stuff gets publicized..the more some of these Democrats may get a conscience ..or at least worry about being reelected.


4 posted on 09/08/2009 5:03:37 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

Already done.


5 posted on 09/08/2009 5:04:38 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (!!)
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To: kingattax

Doesn’t matter if they be a dem or pubbie, At this point I do not believe ANYTHING any politician says on ANY issue.
They are ALL liars.


6 posted on 09/08/2009 5:10:13 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (google; operation garden spot and REX84)
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To: Joe Boucher

I agree. It seems to be congenital with them.


7 posted on 09/08/2009 5:11:02 AM PDT by sauropod (People who do things are people that get things done.)
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To: kingattax

The Speaker knows how to count and knows how to stop the bleeding. This clap-trap about losing votes means nothing, they will toe the line when necessary.


8 posted on 09/08/2009 5:12:13 AM PDT by Bulldawg Fan (Victory is the last thing Murtha and his fellow Defeatists want.)
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To: Bulldawg Fan
Politicians have memories and can read Polls, in an off Presidential election year, You can count on one group voting ( excepton Acorn) Seniors. They remember 1994 and Hillary care.
9 posted on 09/08/2009 5:16:23 AM PDT by scooby321 (and)
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To: Joe Boucher
Doesn’t matter if they be a dem or pubbie, At this point I do not believe ANYTHING any politician says on ANY issue. They are ALL liars.

DITTO!

10 posted on 09/08/2009 5:18:22 AM PDT by Jackknife (Chuck Norris grinds his coffee with his teeth, and boils his water with his rage)
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To: kingattax

There’s plenty of money left in the TARP funds to bribe these 23 into converts....

We need to pressure the 3 Republicans in the “gang-of-six” to get OFF of the “comprimise” that would do NOTHING to protect American’s from Obama-care!
Call Max Bacus TODAY!!!


11 posted on 09/08/2009 5:23:34 AM PDT by G Larry ( Obamacare=Dying in Line!)
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Most Democrats opposed to healthcare reform argue it costs too much, imposes a new tax and fines businesses that don’t provide insurance to employees. Some fear that the bill would subsidize abortion,,,,but mostly they fear for their re-election.

There, fixed it.
12 posted on 09/08/2009 5:26:18 AM PDT by Sig Sauer P220 ("Peace" is that brief, glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading - Anonymous)
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To: kingattax

Any republicans voting in the House for the bill?


13 posted on 09/08/2009 5:41:59 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: kingattax

And we can absolutely believe each one of these Dems, right?


14 posted on 09/08/2009 5:45:26 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (Kenya? Kenya? Kenya just show us the birth certificate?)
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To: Doogle

Before the election I used to see ‘Massa/Obama’ signs around town.

I thought ‘kind of fitting’.


15 posted on 09/08/2009 5:52:42 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: kingattax
Sounds good, but I wouldn't trust the dems one bit to follow through on not supporting the Obama bills. In Nevada, Harry Reid fully supports Obama’s plan. However, if you hear the radio ads playing, you would think he opposes it. They say he is all for your doctor making decisions and not bureaucrats. He is all for you keeping your health insurance. He is above partisan issues and always works for bipartisan solutions. It is all a lie to make people think Reid is a centrist and that the Obama plan is benign.
16 posted on 09/08/2009 6:00:52 AM PDT by Nevadan
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To: kingattax

This just proves that when up against the wall, congressmen will throw Zer0 under the bus and serve their own self-interest(which is to get reelected)


17 posted on 09/08/2009 6:31:03 AM PDT by bestintxas
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To: kingattax

I can throw a congressrat farther than I can believe one.


18 posted on 09/08/2009 7:17:59 AM PDT by Overtaxed Patriot
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To: screaminsunshine

The Communist Caucus in the House can pass anything it wants.
+++++++++++++++++

Only if we let them.


19 posted on 09/08/2009 7:20:21 AM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country & the Tea Party! Take America Back! (Objective media? Try TRAITORS.))
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To: Joe Boucher; sauropod

There’s not one Republican you would vote for anywhere in the country?


20 posted on 09/08/2009 7:21:35 AM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country & the Tea Party! Take America Back! (Objective media? Try TRAITORS.))
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