Posted on 09/03/2009 10:17:06 PM PDT by Maelstorm
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Me too. I've never understood why people get flu shots.
The entire purpose of an adjuvant is to create an immune response. It does this because your body assumes, correctly, that it is harmful. The risks should be weighed of course but this influenza A is simply not that deadly at this point. IMO of course. Squalene is used to induce arthritis in small mammal studies BTW.
I’m not worried about the swine flue. I figure I and my family have been exposed over and over again since I travel so much. I just don’t understand the hype around this. I understood it when it appeared there is a risk it could manifest differently than the normal flu but it does not appear to be the case at. Most people appear to have been immune or have developed immunity quickly with the vast bulk of cases being very mild to the point of no being noticed. Also for those worry-worts out there if you fly on a plane, you have probably been exposed, if you’ve went to an amusement park or traveled significantly then you have probably been exposed when means you already have immunity.
This thing is being rushed way too quickly and there is no real justification for it. It reminds me of episodes from the Xfiles. Why the rush?
For what it’s worth, from WIKI: All higher organisms produce squalene, including humans. It is a hydrocarbon and a triterpene. Squalene is a natural and vital part of the synthesis of cholesterol, steroid hormones, and vitamin D in the human body [1]
Yeah and it was used in the Anthrax vaccine. Our military were the guinea pigs and there were documented adverse reactions. I’m not anti-vaccine, I had my shots as a kid and my kids have had theirs without a problem but I do not like this rushing around setting the stage for vaccination with what are experimental vaccines with a known autoimmune antagonist. This could lead to millions of children and others with chronic autoimmune diseases.
“What Squalene Does to Rats
Oil-based vaccination adjuvants like squalene have been proved to generate concentrated, unremitting immune responses over long periods of time.[vi]
A 2000 study published in the American Journal of Pathology demonstrated a single injection of the adjuvant squalene into rats triggered “chronic, immune-mediated joint-specific inflammation,” also known as rheumatoid arthritis.[vii]
The researchers concluded the study raised questions about the role of adjuvants in chronic inflammatory diseases.”
Vaccine A tells a story of betrayal, of medical arrogance flourishing in the absence of public accountability, shielded by an unquestioning deference to national security. Investigative journalist Gary Matsumoto reveals that thousands of young men and women in the U.S. Armed Forces were subjected to medical experiments that were conducted without their knowledge or consent-and that have put them in grave danger. Not only have military scientists performed unethical experiments on U.S. and British soldiers; not only are they refusing to admit either the experiments or the effects they caused; not only are they continuing to use a deadly substance in experimental vaccines-this substance is being developed for use in vaccines intended for mass immunization around the globe. In an alarming narrative, Vaccine A recounts this scientific tragedy-from the U.S. Army's tradition of medical experimentation on soldiers through to the present, where the consequences of these experimental vaccines, if administered to civilians, will be unimaginably devastating.
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Most importantly, a 2006 law gives complete immunity to the pharmaceutical companies for the use of these vaccines under the conditions of “medical emergency” that has been declared for the H1N1/variants.
That’s why it’s being rushed - the “emergency” is used not only to force mass innoculations, but also to invoke the legal immunity law for the vaccine makers.
Which means, of course, that there is zero money put into safety testing. After all, what’s the point if they can’t be sued? Instead, the results of the mass inocculations will BE the “safety testing.”
The sickest I’ve been with a virus was after I had taken the only flu shot I’ve ever taken. I’ll never do it again.
Autoimmune pancreatitis seems to be a side effect.
I am not taking it. I’ll take that risk.
Your bizarre personal abuse of another Freeper has been reported.
So if the goobermint is going to make these H1NI shots 'mandatory', and under threat of detention and relocation, they better recall the 101st and 82nd Airborne Divisions from Afghanistan first 'cause I AIN'T gettin' one.
Every time I post that I got sick for a month after each of my two flu shots, FReepers tell me I’m nuts.
My husband, my children and myself will skip the shots.
We did the baby shots, but that’s it.
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