HCR is not just about rationing and wealth redistribution. It's about the end of all individual rights as the corrosive effects of the new collectivist basic human right to health care spreads throughout the legal and political system like a virus.
Posted on 09/03/2009 3:00:14 PM PDT by Nachum
(CNSNews.com) – The health care bill under consideration in the House of Representatives would give President Obama the authority to name a new federal “Health Choices Commissioner” who would have sweeping power to govern the health insurance plans offered in a so-called "exchange" where millions of Americans would get their health insurance if the bill is enacted.
These powers would include deciding which treatments are covered, which companies can participate, which states can run their own exchange, and enrolling individuals into the public exchange.
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The list, ping
Repeated acts that would not be upheld as Constitutional, but not a single Republican lawmaker standing up and forcing the issues to court.
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I oppose Health Care Reform (HCR) because it is a direct assault on individual liberties. I think that is its main purpose.
That means that health care providers have no individual rights. The collective right of the people to receive health care would supersede the provider's individual right to set their fees, their hours or change their occupational status or even decide how to apply their skills and knowledge. A collective right, by practical definition, is a state right because it is a right that is provided by the government to all not protected by the government as something possessed by each person. It is also a state right because it supersedes the individual rights of others when the two come into conflict.
It isn't stated in any of the bills that a patient's rights to care supersedes a provider's right to set fees and hours etc, but it doesn't need to. Rights are always adjudicated in the courts. The legislation simply establishes the foundation for the courts to rule in favor of the patient's collective right to health care.
Weiner’s view is collectivist, fascist and totalitarian. Collectivist because it is superior to an individual right. Fascist because it is overseen by one entity the Federal government. Totalitarian because the Federal government is the true possessor of this collective right and the administrator and enforcer of it as well.
Congressman Weiner's view is the underlying philosophy of the entire Health Care Reform legislation the House and Senate have put forth. Consider the setting up of community watch dogs to monitor various health parameters of citizens in the Senate version of the bill. Look at pages 382 - 393.
TITLE I—QUALITY, AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE FOR ALL AMERICANS
Even the citizens themselves will be subject to state set regulations on their behavior in order to fulfill the human right of universal health care. It isn't the individual's liberty that is being protected by that it is the state's control over its health care system that is being guarded. How much clearer can it be that these bills abrogate the concept of individual rights?
Health Care is a Liberty Issue Conservative Underground - 18 August 2009 - Tim Dunkin
Second Bill of Rights aka FDR's economic bill of rights (An early attempt to embed collective rights into American politics and society.)
If Republicans started seriously complaining about the Constitutionality of the legislation that Democrats propose then they would have to start defending the Constitutionality of the legislation that they propose. Ain’t gonna happen.
Democrats can’t do anything right.
Gestapo to aid the Czars destroying our country and stealing our freedom.
When pubbies swear to “support and defend the Constitution,” they don't mean it.
Oh I see. Now they are called “Commissioners”. What happened to “Czars”?
Where are the watchdogs who should speak up when the Constitution is violated? Where is the Justice department? Just sitting back picking their noses?
Again with the the F-ing Czars!
I D.O. N.O.T. W.A.N.T. A.N.Y. F.-I.N.G. P.L.A.N.!!!!
That’s great! Another A-hole who has sweeping powers to make whatever changes he feels like.
FUBO!
“Repeated acts that would not be upheld as Constitutional, but not a single Republican lawmaker standing up and forcing the issues to court.”
This is what I don’t understand. Why are no lawmakers on our side being more forceful about the unconstitutionality of practically everything Obama has been doing since he was elected? Why aren’t more of them shouting from the rooftops about all of the marxists that Obama has surrounded himself with? Why aren’t more of them demanding to see rock solid proof of his friggin eligibility to even be president?
WTH is going on in Washington?
No, they're busy going after the CIA.
Thanks! I was looking for a new excuse.
I didn’t lie, really! I just didn’t mean it.
Just say “NOOOOOOOOOO”.
Oh yes they can!
They do voter fruad, community organizing, lies, race baiting, propaganda, undermining Americas freedom and many other activities very very well.
Every president has had his coterie of trusted advisors. It is just that as a true Alinsky subversive, Obama is taking an accepted procedure, twisting and perverting it beyond recognition, and using it against the very purpose for which it was intended (loyal governance).
Problem is, we have little idea about the people who put an “R” next to their name and run for office. Seriously, who the hell are these people? None of us really knows their background for the most part, they just appear on the scene and are suddenly candidates. We need a clean sweep in Washington, everyone of them out. EVERY ONE.
I agree, but there are a few good ones that are worth keeping on our side...but not many.
The White House is now floating the idea of passing health care reform with a so-called “trigger,” as proposed by Sen. Olympia Snowe. Could progressives support a plan like that?
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