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Frum Effectively Concedes He Has Little Influence ("increasingly irrelevant" compared to Palin)
Conservatives4Palin.com ^ | 09/02/09 | Tommy Report

Posted on 09/02/2009 2:46:16 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Politico conducted an interview recently with David Frum, former speechwriter for George W. Bush and a vigorous critic of Governor Palin, about the progress of his new project, the New Majority, a website that is allegedly "dedicated to the modernization and renewal of the Republican party and the conservative movement."

In the interview, Frum effectively concedes that his New Majority project thus far has had little success in accomplishing its stated goals.

"[T]he Internet is proving to be a little more complicated than Frum first thought it would be, he says. He admits to shortcomings in his Web acumen, and NewMajority.com has already undergone a redesign since it went online. The site has gotten about 800,000 unique visitors. By comparison, the conservative site Townhall.com receives 2 million unique visitors per month.

“I would like more, obviously,” Frum demurs.

“If you go to a consultant,” he continues, “the reason they will tell you that my project faces some daunting challenges is that the people who want to read most about politics are those with the most extreme views.”

While that may be true, he views the situation from another angle. “Maybe it’s true that people with less extreme views who are also interested in public affairs have been driven out by a marketplace that doesn’t offer them anything of the tone they want to listen to,” he says.

Some in the conservative cognoscente praise Frum’s intellect and efforts, but that’s where the anointing of the New Majority ends. You can count on a fingerless hand the big-name conservatives who have publicly joined the crusade. So far, Frum’s site has become an intellectual way station of college students, unknown politicos and anonymous scribes.

“Frum is smart, and the site is young,” says National Review’s Ramesh Ponnuru, a former colleague. “But so far, it has not made much of a splash. He has gotten some attention from journalists, but the site isn’t yet a must-read for anyone.”

Frum is sort of right about why his project has had little to no influence thus far: there is no marketplace at the moment for his belief that for the Republican Party to succeed, it must move to the middle on fiscal, economic, and cultural issues. There is no need in the marketplace for a New Majority-type project when Republicans currently lead their Democrat counterparts on the generic ballot by a healthy margin for the first time in many years. Barack Obama is one of the most unpopular presidents since the New Deal at this stage through his presidency. One of the greatest ironies about Frum's failure is that he asserted the following in a lightly-read blog post:

The worse conservatives do, the more important Rush becomes as leader of the ardent remnant. The better conservatives succeed, the more we become a broad national governing coalition, the more Rush will be sidelined.

Frum must have accidentally inserted Rush's name for his name because it's pretty clear from the data cited above that conservatives are succeeding and people like Rush Limbaugh remain more prominent than ever. It's not people like Rush (of whom I am actually not a fan) who have been sidelined in the midst of this conservative and Republican comeback, but rather it's people like Frum and Bruce Bartlett who have seen their voices become increasingly irrelevant as poll after poll shows Republicans and conservatives on the upswing. By the way Bruce, Republicans are not just projected to win "a few congressional" seats as you conceded in your last angry column (I thought Frum was against anger?), but you may want to check in with Charlie Cook and liberal poll "analyst" Nate Silver to see how good the landscape looks for Republicans, a prospect that is clearly detrimental to your cause. Ironically, contrary to Frum's assertion about Rush Limbaugh, the fortunes of New Majority-type projects are seemingly tied directly to the success of the Democrat Party and liberals.

In addition to whining about how much his project has failed, Frum also talks a little bit about Governor Palin in this interview:

“Why were conservatives vulnerable to somebody like this?” Frum mused about Palin recently in an interview with POLITICO. “The things that prevented them from seeing her are all still there. And we see them during this health care debate.”

That Frum would continue to focus on Palin in such a fashion is another reason why New Majority has flopped. In order for Frum's project to have succeeded, he needed to convince Republicans and conservatives that his path represented the path back to glory for the party and movement. One way he could have succeeded in convincing conservatives and Republicans that his ideas had merit was to find a spokesperson who was viewed overwhelmingly in a favorable manner by conservatives and Republicans. Such a spokesperson would then be able to speak with a lot more authority than Frum to conservatives and Republicans as to the alleged need to go in another direction. The task for Frum would have been to convince this person who was viewed in an overwhelmingly favorable manner by conservatives and Republicans in the strength of his ideas.

Ace knew precisely the person Frum should have sought:

If Frum's real goal is to help the party, and he thinks Sarah Palin is a empty-headed dolt who will say whatever the political script requires, wouldn't it be in his own best interest to actually win over the mainstream of conservative thought so that Sarah Palin regurgitates all the hard thinkin' Frum's done for her? Surely Frum is aware that is charisma is for **** -- even if he assumes (as he does) he's the brains of this operation, surely he can't be so self-deluded as to imagine he'd make a capable faceman.

So why is he hellbent on personally destroying those with charisma and audience? Why on earth wouldn't he want to retain the services of these brain-dead but smooth-talking troglodytes but enlist them in his own cause?

Now, it's likely that Governor Palin would have politely rejected such a proposal from Frum. However, that Frum didn't even make the effort to ask the person who is viewed more favorably by Republicans and conservatives than any other politician in the country whether she was interested in his project suggests to me that the New Majority was destined to stay the New Minority from the start.

Disclaimer: This post does not claim that the New Majority lacks quality writers or does not present some good ideas for the party's future.

Update: Since January, Conservatives 4 Palin has had 1,770,673 visits, twice the number claimed by David Frum's New Majority. Keep in mind too that Joseph Russo started this blog with $10 while Frum soliticited professional advice and promoted the debut of New Majority heavily in the political and conservative blogosphere. Just sayin' (no, not the commentator).


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: Alaska
KEYWORDS: davidfrum; davidscum; palin; palin22012; sarahpalin
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1 posted on 09/02/2009 2:46:16 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
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To: SolidWood; Mr. Silverback
Sarah PING! ;)


2 posted on 09/02/2009 2:48:10 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (http://www.conservatives4palin.com/)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Frum was ok for a while, but then his theories sort of "Time Warped" and made a


3 posted on 09/02/2009 3:00:49 AM PDT by CanaGuy (Go Harper!)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

I first heard of Frum through a book he wrote on George W. Bush about his experiences as a speechwriter. Mr. Canada himself now thinks he is some sort of voice for conservatives when he spends all his time attacking Palin, which is funny because a giveaway is the obsession these people put into attacking conservatives rather than the dangerous radicals that control the White House and Congress! He needs to shut up and go back to Canada because he offers up nothing.


4 posted on 09/02/2009 3:01:07 AM PDT by bushfamfan (United States of America: July 4, 1776-November 4, 2008)
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To: bushfamfan

Frum’s “grand plan” for Conservatives is to become liberal.


5 posted on 09/02/2009 3:02:36 AM PDT by SolidWood (Sarah Palin: "Only dead fish go with the flow!")
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

FRUM arguments are dishonest, thats why ppl don’t listen to him.

He turns a blind eye to hyperpole from Obama, yet attack hyperpole from Palin. He spend alot of time praising OBama, yet spend no effort to praise Palin.

If I didn’t know better, I say he’s a Democrat. What principles does he hold dear, that make him a GOP?


6 posted on 09/02/2009 3:03:18 AM PDT by 4rcane
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To: SolidWood
Ironically, contrary to Frum's assertion about Rush Limbaugh, the fortunes of New Majority-type projects are seemingly tied directly to the success of the Democrat Party and liberals.

Money quote, IMHO.

7 posted on 09/02/2009 3:09:00 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (http://www.conservatives4palin.com/)
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To: 4rcane

He was for the War on Terror. That’s it. He isn’t a bit more “Conservative” than i.e. Joe Lieberman.


8 posted on 09/02/2009 3:11:20 AM PDT by SolidWood (Sarah Palin: "Only dead fish go with the flow!")
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
for his belief that for the Republican Party to succeed, it must move to the middle on fiscal, economic, and cultural issues

And this is the crux of what people like Frum are all about, party over principle......just like Democrats. Conversely, Palin is as popular as she is because she puts principle over party, even to the point of crushing corrupt republicans in power like she did in Alaska. Frum and all those like him, have built their spiritual houses on sand and are advising everyone else to do it too.

9 posted on 09/02/2009 3:12:30 AM PDT by HerrBlucher
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

“...increasingly irrelevant...”

(he’s reading and considering responding to old mail from Ted Kennedy)


10 posted on 09/02/2009 3:16:27 AM PDT by This_far
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Frum, we don’t like liberals like you.


11 posted on 09/02/2009 3:37:17 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Liberals feed on dead Senators and babies)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
I shouldn't bang on all these Republican Party Reptiles that can't stand Sarah Palin,. you know, Frum, Parker, Noonan, Bennett etc. etc etc. But I got to tell you.

Are they that out of touch? To para-phrase Gerald Celente, their is a 2nd American Revolution going on and they are worried about process and consultants and how many freakin people are not going to their website? What is worse, they don't see this revolution!, Or we are just unwashed hayseed ruffians that they never wanted in their party in the 1st place! They are worried that their middle of the road vision of accepting the crumbs from the Dems like Bob Michael's did not being taken seriously (because that is what it will end up being). Do they not get the country is truly broke and that the starting point should be the re-engineering of gov't, layoffs, and Dept eliminations at the federal level?

Maybe they need a job like George C.Scott as Patton noted in his "speech" maybe these folks ought to spend some time "shovelin $H!+ in Louisiana" for a while to get back to the real world....

12 posted on 09/02/2009 3:43:31 AM PDT by taildragger (Palin/Mulally 2012)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Frum was writing the coveted back page for NR after Flo King retired - then he wrote a pro-abortion article for syndication and got yanked off the very next issue.
Talk about out of touch.
13 posted on 09/02/2009 3:59:42 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: taildragger
Frum is afflicted with a particularly virulent strain of the well-documented cranial wasting disease, Conservative Derangement Syndrome:

It is theorized that he picked up said malady either from a toilet seat, or else John McCain. ;)

14 posted on 09/02/2009 4:21:06 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (http://www.conservatives4palin.com/)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

If I wanted to back what frum wants... I would just go to the dnc website.

LLS


15 posted on 09/02/2009 5:16:05 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussama will never be my president... NEVER!)
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To: LibLieSlayer

David Frum is, essentially, Kathleen Parker with a Y chromosome. ;)


16 posted on 09/02/2009 5:18:22 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (http://www.conservatives4palin.com/)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
...allegedly "dedicated to the modernization and renewal of the Republican party and the conservative movement."

When Frum says "modernization and renewal" he means the utter destruction and removal of conservatism and conservatives from the republican party and state and federal government. May have to flush two or three times to make him go away...whatever it takes.

Go Team Sarah!

17 posted on 09/02/2009 5:54:20 AM PDT by GBA
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

What or who is a “Frum?” Some sort of New England dinner pastry?


18 posted on 09/02/2009 5:57:46 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: abb
What or who is a “Frum?”

A tiny, eternally preening pest which traditionally ekes out a mingy, parasitic sort of existence on the dull, leathery hide of a R(h)INO. Sort of the political equivalent of tick birds, really. ;)

19 posted on 09/02/2009 6:04:13 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (http://www.conservatives4palin.com/)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Interesting! And now this timely article.

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/rhino_tickbird_stuck_in_dead_end
Rhino, Tickbird Stuck In Dead-End Symbiotic Relationship


20 posted on 09/02/2009 6:07:28 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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